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Old 30th Jun 2021, 16:07
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Bears are just like big dumb dogs , i have met lots of bears on walks and the only bears that scared me were the Polar bears in Resolute and Grizzly bears in Toba inlet as they will hunt you and they look at you like their next meal . Black bears get annoyed if you are eating their berries . Black bears will get used to you and will ignore you after a while . Bears as a whole are non confrontational but will defend their territory and berry bushes .
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Old 30th Jun 2021, 17:25
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Originally Posted by usedtobeATC
If the bear breaks off the chain, then it will not seem sour... .
Do you all share the same building (and each other’s user names) or are you distributed around the Rodina and further afield?
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Old 30th Jun 2021, 18:08
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The Russians could have sunk Defender, but they wouldn't have many Fencers or pilots left afterwards
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Old 1st Jul 2021, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
Not the first time that Bigot documents have been left lying around - though at least last time it was in the back of a taxi ... who takes the bus? Are salaries really that bad?

Perhaps we should now cast a watchful eye over the Times crossword . . .
It probably not a coincidence that the documents were "left" at bus stop. Bus stops are a good place to be able to hang around without looking suspicious, so it may be that even though the documents were left, it may not have been through carelessness.
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Old 1st Jul 2021, 22:13
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One wonders if we do not have a have a parallel to the 1930s, when the Germans and Japanese were doing aggression by .'hidden' stealth. - very much a parallel to what the Russians and ChiComms are doing now. I'm glad I am unlikely to still be alive when Europe and the US wakeup to the reality of what they have to face - without the resources (other than maybe nuclear) to do it.
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 00:53
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Originally Posted by NAROBS
If were going to play a speculative game of consequences, or international Morning Crescent, then standby for a stop at the end of the line called Europe Glass Car Park. And you'd be surprised, nowadays, from a standing start, how quickly you could get there, particularly when your doing it, apparently, to curry favour with the "Hold-my-stick" brigade the other side of the pond. How do we know that one of the razz-mattaz policy strategems may be to attempt to slew first strike towards Europe. The preservation of Mildenhall and new function for Fairford might be an indication of that.

One AH had similar aspirations . . .and he only had problems with his elbows . . . . and look where that got him, even with a substantial portion of the resident population being ethnically and attitudinally sympathetic to his cause. That support either from the population or the topography doesn't go much further East. Its a huge country. A lot of the people in the East are in effect self-governing.

The only hope is that the effects of the melting permo-frost extend to the east Polish border and that massing military formations, including the rear echelon HQs (Them first if I had my way), disappear lock stock and kalishnikov, down a giant swallow hole.

With the inter mingling of populations through travel, think the railway link from China etc , differences in values, if ever they existed between the bog standard members of the population, will be smoothed-out long-term, leaving the establishments with no raison-d'etre, especially in this line of business. Hurrah !
Your English is sufficiently stilted and contains enough subtle grammar and spelling errors to lead me to suppose that you are not what you seem.

Comrade.
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 15:25
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Some friendly advice to those responsible for the troll farms. The audience here is harder to deceive than those on typical below-the-line comments or Facebook threads. You'll either have to up your game or go back to stirring up trouble among credulous Mail and Express readers...
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 16:24
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Some friendly advice to those responsible for the troll farms. The audience here is harder to deceive than those on typical below-the-line comments or Facebook threads. You'll either have to up your game or go back to stirring up trouble among credulous Mail and Express readers...
The subtle changes in style give the impression that perhaps different hands write under the same name. Do you think they work shifts?
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 18:07
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Or copy and paste from different sources?
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 18:46
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I prefer to follow the maxim 'Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity'.
It is implausible to me that Russia, scraping for pennies as oil prices erode, has the money to support trolls on PPRN.
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 20:28
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Originally Posted by etudiant
I prefer to follow the maxim 'Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity'.
It is implausible to me that Russia, scraping for pennies as oil prices erode, has the money to support trolls on PPRN.
On the contrary. Trolling is cheap, and funded as much by Putin's oligarch backers (who are certainly not short of cash) as by the state. See here for example. And PPRuNe is a high-payoff target: it's known that Western journos read it for leads and occasionally even lift stories from it, so why not try mixing in some "alternative" perspectives? Even better if they can trick a credulous journo into thinking that western military personnel hold pro-Russian views; that would be quite the scoop. But the standard of trolling is not quite good enough for that. It's taken the campaigns for Brexit and recent UK and US general elections to do it, but it seems that after almost 20 years of talking about it, the West is finally up to speed on info ops.
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 20:56
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PPRuNe is a high-payoff target: it's known that Western journos read it for leads and occasionally even lift stories from it.....
No wonder there is such lack of accuracy in the modern Media.

"High Payoff Target".....oh...please do explain that concept to us will you?

It is a RUMOUR NETWORK....clearly stated by. its very. name!

But....I suppose if a so-called Journo used something he saw here as the basis for a news story....they could use that very handy....."A well placed Anonymous Source...." line of BS to try to add some credibility to the story.
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 21:52
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You answered your own question there...
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Old 3rd Jul 2021, 23:17
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Originally Posted by etudiant
I prefer to follow the maxim 'Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity'.
It is implausible to me that Russia, scraping for pennies as oil prices erode, has the money to support trolls on PPRN.
It costs nothing to post here.

I wrote a more detailed explanation but decided not to post it.

There is no question in my mind, from analysing the use of English, that the poster I replied to is a foreign troll masquerading as something else.

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Old 4th Jul 2021, 07:30
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Originally Posted by SASless
No wonder there is such lack of accuracy in the modern Media.

"High Payoff Target".....oh...please do explain that concept to us will you?

It is a RUMOUR NETWORK....clearly stated by. its very. name!

But....I suppose if a so-called Journo used something he saw here as the basis for a news story....they could use that very handy....."A well placed Anonymous Source...." line of BS to try to add some credibility to the story.

Troll farm or no troll farm, journalists do definitely read pprune and have cited either anonymous sources or vague references to an internet source populated by professional pilots, definitely trying to make it more credible than it is!
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Old 4th Jul 2021, 07:53
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That I think is the most likely answer as to why a new bunch of posters would post clear propaganda on one thread. The regular posters of a more pro Russian line such as Vann have been here for years, post on many threads and have some useful points to make, The newbies are very obliviously different
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Old 4th Jul 2021, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Easy Street
On the contrary. Trolling is cheap, and funded as much by Putin's oligarch backers (who are certainly not short of cash) as by the state. See here for example. And PPRuNe is a high-payoff target: it's known that Western journos read it for leads and occasionally even lift stories from it, so why not try mixing in some "alternative" perspectives? Even better if they can trick a credulous journo into thinking that western military personnel hold pro-Russian views; that would be quite the scoop. But the standard of trolling is not quite good enough for that. It's taken the campaigns for Brexit and recent UK and US general elections to do it, but it seems that after almost 20 years of talking about it, the West is finally up to speed on info ops.
If you were going to pay people to post propaganda here, wouldn't you at least look for candidates with level 6 English?
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Old 4th Jul 2021, 11:35
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And there was me thinking that contributors to Mil Forum were better than the denizens of Jet Blast.

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