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Old 25th Jun 2021, 08:28
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Considering their next port of call, (which Boris has just revealed) and the countries and installations on either side of it, "There may be trouble ahead...".
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Positions of Two NATO Ships Were Falsified Near Russian Black Sea Naval Base - USNI News
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 11:23
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
Big win for everyone!

Uk shows off Navy in far off places, tweaks the tail of the Bear and does it with NATO allies

Proud Russians not asleep react to defend the Motherland and stop the devious British repeating 1854

Anyone would think there are elections soon.... ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Well I think it is a fair assesment...

In any case jingoist populism for the neo-liberal elite is not my favorite mean of conducting state affairs.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 12:07
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BZ; 100% behind the National and RN intentions, but am I the only one who thought Defender seemed awfully small, and awfully lonely on that big flat sea?
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Any ship-identifcation experts out there who can ident the "coast guard vessel/s" type that were involved in the shooting incident?
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 14:42
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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
Any ship-identifcation experts out there who can ident the "coast guard vessel/s" type that were involved in the shooting incident?
the one seen on BBC video onboard HMS Defender regarding shadowing is project 22160 patrol vessel.

this report: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57583363

this ship:

heres a pic of said vessel type for reference:


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Old 25th Jun 2021, 15:09
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Originally Posted by NAROBS
Looks like I'm not the only one having brain trouble this morning - Main Building aussi.

Can somebody tell me where the major British International Trade Route in the Black Sea that the Type 45 action was ostensibly maintaining/ defending . . . . or lets be more specific, the Trade Route to a Southern Ukranian port that was being protected ? Where was the merchantman that was being protected ?

What half-wit in MB thought doing an Italian Cruise liner captain emulation ("Hey girls, look, no hands") off the Crimean coast was going to be of any long-term benefit for the UK...
I'm sure I've heard something like this before.

Now I remember. It was Neville Chamberlain on Germany's annexation of the Sudetenland in a radio broadcast on 7 September 1938:

"How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing."
I guess the principle of freedom of navigation just doesn't mean anything to some people.




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Old 25th Jun 2021, 16:27
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https://www.newscientist.com/article...an-naval-base/

GPS cyberattack falsely placed UK warship near Russian naval base


Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article...#ixzz6yonYExAp
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 17:18
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I guess the principle of freedom of navigation just doesn't mean anything to some people.
in this specific case it had obviously nothing to do with freedom of navigation and everyone with half a brain fully understands it. In absolute terms I fuly accept that the UK has to do the US bidding and poke the bear. But please stop the complete nonsense about freedom of navigation.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 17:58
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Originally Posted by atakacs
…I fuly accept that the UK has to do the US bidding and poke the bear. But please stop the complete nonsense about freedom of navigation...
Originally Posted by NAROBS
…particularly when your doing it, apparently, to curry favour with the "Hold-my-stick" brigade the other side of the pond….
Sock puppets, bots of ill-intent or just plain trolls?

Whichever applies, I make a point of not feeding any of them on Fridays.

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Old 25th Jun 2021, 18:04
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Originally Posted by FODPlod
Sock puppets, bots of ill-intent or just plain trolls?

Whichever applies, I make a point of not feeding any of them on Fridays.
You have to laugh though. One is spouting complete gibberish and the other is claiming expertise in naval strategy from Switzerland.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 18:45
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You brave lads of the RN and RAF are really just unwitting tools in the destruction of your own nation and all its great values and traditions
​​​​​​.Russia is no longer Commie - the Cold War is over. A new type of war has begun, and as it happens, Russia has taken on the mantle of preserving white western Christian civilization. What’s supposed to be YOUR JOB.
The West has become a disgusting morass of neo Marxist, globohomo anti white, anti Christian hysteria.
Putin is hated because of his refusal to take a knee to such debauchery. I’m fully behind him.
Meanwhile Britain and the US suck up to murderers and terrorists like MBS and SA.
It’s clear as day that all the hate and provocation is coming from your direction alone.
oh, and let’s not forget, the MIC needs a boogeyman to keep the shekels rolling in.
Your wages depend on it!
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 18:55
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I agree one hundred percent with what you just said Roo, right up to the word are…
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 18:57
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Originally Posted by Killaroo
…Meanwhile Britain and the US suck up to murderers and terrorists like MBS and SA…
I wondered how long it would be. We could have a good clear-out with all of you coming out of the woodwork.

Now, where’s Sunny Bay again? I must have missed your answer the first time.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 19:08
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Russia's show is aimed at their domestic public. No need to get excited.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 19:16
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Originally Posted by Killaroo
Said stuff
I've seen some utter drivel posted here but that wins first prize!

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Old 25th Jun 2021, 19:22
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He sounds a bit like the vodka tasting has begun?
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 19:24
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Originally Posted by NAROBS
…If that's what you want, that's what will happen.
Harry Enfield walt, but funnier.

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Old 25th Jun 2021, 19:58
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Originally Posted by Less Hair
Russia's show is aimed at their domestic public. No need to get excited.
It's nothing new. They did much the same thing in 2018 when HMS Duncan was on a similar patrol. Plenty of clips on You tube.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 20:20
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And now they have Covid peaking at home.
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