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Buccaneer Comedy

Old 19th Jun 2021, 19:49
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
the second guy would be sitting right behind me isn’t strictly correct either as both seats are offset to allow the back seater forward vision.
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Just too nit-picking and not correct.
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Old 19th Jun 2021, 20:25
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Give him a bit of slack he only started in November.
Don’t see why that absolves him from factual correctness. If you don’t know, pick the brains of someone who does…

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Old 19th Jun 2021, 20:37
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If the RAFM need a bit of guidance they could look at the example set by the tank museum at Bovington.

Compare and contrast the Bucc video with this:


I can recommend their "tank chats" interesting and knowledgeable presenters giving in depth descriptions of each vehicle.
One of the comparisons I see it that these are presented at a level that the layman can follow but the expert probably still finds it watchable.







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I went to hendon about 18 months ago when my airline still flew to London (before the end of western civilisation called Covid) ..it was excellent and the aircraft were beautifully restored and presented and you don’t need a boffin to show you around as you wander the halls. Free too! I recommend it.
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Old 19th Jun 2021, 22:03
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Originally Posted by toratoratora
Don’t see why that absolves him from factual correctness. If you don’t know, pick the brains of someone who does…
it doesn’t but it tends to make you think it was written for him.
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Old 20th Jun 2021, 07:37
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The video output from the RAFM is abysmal - poorly presented, seemingly without any enthusiasm. The Cosford collection has some excellent JAAF exhibits, but the video produced on these was bland and uninteresting - unlike the a/c!
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Old 20th Jun 2021, 10:20
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it doesn’t but it tends to make you think it was written for him.
I don’t buy that. His Facebook link says he is a ‘researcher’. So go and research, then.

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Old 20th Jun 2021, 10:31
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Can't believe I spent so many hours sat in the front seat without noticing the headup artificial horizon!
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Old 20th Jun 2021, 11:01
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Those with a Facebook account can message him here:----
It's fair enough to criticise the vid and presenter on this forum, but it's a bit off to post personal contact details and encourage people to message him..

If you want to complain directly, contact the museum.
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Agreed……..
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Old 20th Jun 2021, 17:40
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Originally Posted by kration
It's fair enough to criticise the vid and presenter on this forum, but it's a bit off to post personal contact details and encourage people to message him..

If you want to complain directly, contact the museum.
If I'd published his mobile number or home address, I'd agree with you.

He's using social media to publish his video - he can hardly complain when people use the same social media to try and correct him...
And it isn't his personal contact info, it's his freely published Facebook page, complete with a 'Message me' button, trumpeting his role at the RAFM...

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Old 21st Jun 2021, 08:35
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This all could be seen coming even back in the late 70's. The "traditional " understanding of a museum as being a place to find reference and education was subsumed. Even then, the concept of it being a repository for study was being overtaken by looking at the "Mum, Dad and two kids on a day out" model which even then,with transport costs, incurred a likely outlay of over £100. Visitor numbers became the supreme criteria for funding consideration. So the "family fun fair " concept then dominated.
So now we have "Service Hats" instead of real Service History , "Talking Heads ", lacking relevant background knowledge rather than Technical Authorities and "Show" over substance.
The Buccaneer video is but one example of the inevitable consequences.

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Old 21st Jun 2021, 14:25
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Having lost blood, sweat and fingernails to BLC ducting (and Cono Seals) I'd like to say this bloke stands out amongst a crowd of idiots as their leader.
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Old 22nd Jun 2021, 14:33
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Back in the 70's there was a Buccaneer that flew sideways on approach with BLC on. It was returned to Holme on Spalding Moor for investigation and extensive rigging checks did not reveal any fault in the flying controls. It was decided to measure the width of all the blowing slits using feeler gauges at 3 inch intervals along each wing, to see if there was any discrepancy from one wing to the other. This was inconclusive so it was decided that the slit dimensions should be rechecked when the ducting along the leading and trailing edges was hot, after an extended ground run, BLC on. There were a few burnt fingers and hands as a result. Unfortunately I can't remember the outcome of the whole exercise.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 20:45
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It appears that an ex-Buccaneer pilot has provided the RAF Museum with corrections to the errors in the video and they have posted them on the YouTube page for this video. They have been honest about their mistakes and it appears that they have posted verbatim the information that was passed to them. I believe that they have recorded another video about the Buccaneer featuring a very experienced ex-Buccaneer pilot and nav which should be on their website later this year.
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Old 20th Aug 2021, 11:23
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Originally Posted by Haraka
. Even then, the concept of it being a repository for study was being overtaken by looking at the "Mum, Dad and two kids on a day out" model which even then,with transport costs, incurred a likely outlay of over £100..
Erm, no.

£100 in 1975 has a comparative value of £850 in today’s world.
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Old 20th Aug 2021, 16:59
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Originally Posted by jumpseater
Erm, no.

£100 in 1975 has a comparative value of £850 in today’s world.
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Told to me directly by Jack Bruce ,which was post 1975, incidentally,(I did say "could be seen coming even in the late 70's) . Bus and train return fares out of London for four, two sets of meals, gift shopping for kids' souvenirs etc.etc.

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Old 20th Aug 2021, 22:04
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
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Just too nit-picking and not correct.
what’s not correct?

The Buccaneer was a mid-wing, twin-engine aircraft. It had a crew of two in a tandem-seat arrangement with the observer seated higher and offset from the pilot to give a clear view forwards to enable him to assist in visual search. Its operational profile included cruising at altitude (for reduced fuel consumption) before descending, just outside the anticipated enemy radar detection range, to 100 feet (30 m) for a 500-knot (930 km/h; 580 mph)[31] dash to and from the target.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Buccaneer
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Old 20th Aug 2021, 22:21
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There is lots more 'comedy' from RAFM videos.

The 109E could out turn the Spitfire 2 because of its leading edge slats - good that!

But my favourite is explaining wing warping here

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