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Old 15th Jun 2021, 22:50
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Elephant mountain crash. Pilot & Nav survived.
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Details, the two pilots were the survivors. The wiki says the nav survived, but has confused it with the co-pilot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_E...ain_B-52_crash

The navs burial details.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...robert-l-payne
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Details, the two pilots were the survivors. The wiki says the nav survived, but has confused it with the co-pilot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_E...ain_B-52_crash

The navs burial details.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...robert-l-payne
There appear to be significant anomalies in the crew details between sites.
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Lt.Col. Dante Bulli, the Aircraft Commander, ordered the aircraft abandoned. The aircraft impacted the west side of Elephant Mountain, six miles from the Town of Greenville. The final turn and black smoke cloud after impact was witnessed by a grader operator on a remote woods road, but the area of the crash was initially thought to be south and east of where it actually was so search aircraft initially on scene before dark were unable to locate it. The temperature dropped to a low of nearly 30 below overnight.

Only the 3 men in the upward firing ejection seats were able to leave the aircraft before impact. The Copilot was fatally injured when he struck a tree. When the site was located and Pararescue men were lowered to the scene 20 hours later, only two were located alive. Col. Bulli landed in a tree and spent the night in his survival kit sleeping bag atop his life raft. Captain Gerald Adler, a Navigator flying in the Electronic Warfare Officer's position, struck the snow covered ground before separating from his ejection seat. Unable to get his survival kit from the bent seat, and seriously injured, he survived the night by wrappng up in his parachute.

Killed in this accident were: Major Robert Morrison, an Instructor Pilot flying as Copilot; Major Robert Hill, Radar Navigator; Captain Herbert Hanson, Navigator; Captain Charles Leuchter, a Radar Navigator; Lt. Col. Joe Simpson, Instructor Pilot; Major William Gabriel, Instructor Navigator; and TSgt. Michael O'Keefe, Gunner.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...aldo-mccormick

Crew of Buzz One Four
Pilot: Major Thomas W. McCormick 1921-1997
Co-Pilot: Captain Parker C Peedin
Radar Bombardier: Major Robert E Townley 1922-1964
Navigator: Major Robert Lee Payne 1922-1964
Tail Gunner: TSgt Melvin F Wooten 1936-1964
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Different crashes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_E...ain_B-52_crash Elephnt Mountain 1963.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_S...ain_B-52_crash Savage Mountain 1964.
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Oh wow - grim
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