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Old 31st May 2021, 17:49
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Who says we are white, angry, old, and male, itís woke statements like that which really gall
I self-identify as an old while male, but Iím open to consider different categorisations in return for a 6-figure sum.
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Old 31st May 2021, 17:58
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I am sure that all of the old white males remember 'M*A*S*H' on TV, all those decades ago, where Cpl 'Radar' O'Reilly always referred to Maj Margaret Houlihan as 'Sir'. And did she ever complain?!
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Old 31st May 2021, 18:08
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Originally Posted by Old-Duffer View Post
How can she be the Diversity TZAR - that's a male title?

Whatever results it will not make a rat's ass of difference to the efficiency or otherwise of the armed forces.

I have a friend called PENMAN - will he have to change his name by deedpoll to PENPERSON?

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Hi Old Duffer,
As he's a chum he might get away with Penpal!?

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PS My fault about the Tzar title, I anointed the young lady in lieu of Diversity Chief which I thought to have the same meaning, almost.

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Old 31st May 2021, 18:23
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Wasnít Hercules a man? Will that need renaming?
Good point. I fully expect theyíll spend £10 million to rename it, just in time to save £8 million by retiring it early in 2023 😬
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Old 31st May 2021, 18:24
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Originally Posted by pr00ne View Post
Nick 1,

So you think that the lack of the ability to discriminate, be rude, objectify and suppress will somehow "extinguish" mankind?
Is the title airman or the term airmanship or airshipmanship really rude and offensive? We used to have the term airwoman, that was dropped through this same line of thinking and all became airmen. It strikes me that any reference to women is offensive, the people who pursue this obsessive mindset are driven by an inability to accept what nature has created, man and woman, male and female. I really do question the sensibility of today's defence chiefs and elected politicians for their craven acquiescence. Do they really in all honesty believe this kind hectoring us all to learn another language, aimed at dismissing a fact of life, is money well spent? What's for sure, it isn't broadly supported by the public and it certainly won't slake the appetite of the woke industry, they'll keep at it, there'll be an even more outrageous reason for outrage soon.

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Old 31st May 2021, 18:34
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+ ten gender-neutral characters.
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Old 31st May 2021, 18:36
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Just now watch the "Wokists" scrabbling for career advancement!
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Old 31st May 2021, 18:38
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When I was alive we had the ranks if Flt Lt and Flt Lt (W). Then they disappeared although I don't recall it being an issue. These days, wnen I apply for car insurance, when I give my title a Dr, the next question is always M or F? Why is the latter acceptable when the former isn't any more?
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Old 31st May 2021, 18:55
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Originally Posted by Two's in View Post
A bunch of angry old white men defending an outrage hit piece by a right-wing fascist rag.

...And they say irony's dead.
A bloke full of his own self importance commenting on what he calls a bunch of of white men replying to a thread on an open forum.

And they say irony's dead
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Old 31st May 2021, 19:02
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Originally Posted by Ninthace View Post
When I was alive we had the ranks if Flt Lt and Flt Lt (W). Then they disappeared although I don't recall it being an issue. These days, when I apply for car insurance, when I give my title a Dr, the next question is always M or F? Why is the latter acceptable when the former isn't any more?
It was so much simpler to use the (W) after a rank when arranging accommodation etc for a detachment. When this rank distinction ceased then it became necessary for the "booking cell" to have another means of not making an inappropriate room share.
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Old 31st May 2021, 19:19
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(oops, took to long to post that ... just what Wensleydale said)
Consulting with the OH, she can’t recall the (W) bit but she does recall being redesignated RAF instead of WRAF. As an Admin Branch person, she found that did present certain immediate difficulties, as it was no longer easy to identify Fg Off Harvey’s gender from the paperwork. Different Admin processes applied, not least in the accommodation and clothing field.
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Old 31st May 2021, 19:25
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Originally Posted by LOMCEVAK View Post
I am sure that all of the old white males remember 'M*A*S*H' on TV, all those decades ago, where Cpl 'Radar' O'Reilly always referred to Maj Margaret Houlihan as 'Sir'. And did she ever complain?!
Quite by chance I happen to be working my way through the M*A*S*H* box set at the moment, and I very much doubt that it would be shown on TV now.
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Old 31st May 2021, 19:45
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"hectoring"?
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Old 31st May 2021, 19:47
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In other politically correct news ...

https://www.who.int/en/activities/tr...oV-2-variants/

“To assist with public discussions of variants, WHO convened a group of scientists from the WHO Virus Evolution Working Group, the WHO COVID-19 reference laboratory network, representatives from GISAID, Nextstrain, Pango and additional experts in virological, microbial nomenclature and communication from several countries and agencies to consider easy-to-pronounce and non-stigmatising labels for VOI and VOC. At the present time, this expert group convened by WHO has recommended using labeled using letters of the Greek Alphabet, i.e., Alpha, Beta, Gamma, which will be easier and more practical to discussed by non-scientific audiences. “
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Old 31st May 2021, 19:51
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Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
Quite by chance I happen to be working my way through the M*A*S*H* box set at the moment, and I very much doubt that it would be shown on TV now.
Two episodes on Channel 49, 7pm each weekday evening... Klinger's cross dressing balances out Hawkeye's philandering, so it's presumably still acceptable.
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Old 31st May 2021, 20:17
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Originally Posted by Lookleft View Post
Your MoD needs these blokes to be in charge.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-...teas/100156436
Rule number one, no poofters.

( am I still allowed to quote from a the sketch on Monty Python where this first appeared many decades ago)
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Old 31st May 2021, 20:22
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Wasnít Hercules a man? Will that need renaming?
Now you know why the RAF C-130s are being got rid of.
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Old 31st May 2021, 20:59
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What will they call the Human Resources section now?

Hu-person?
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Old 31st May 2021, 21:04
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Surely the word 'man' just refers to the species, homo sapiens? Words such as 'human' and 'mankind' are derivatives that have no gender connotation and cover all species members. There are some interesting parallels with other mammalian species. For example 'lion' and 'tiger' refer to the species but also denote the male of the species with separate words, lioness and tigress, to indicate the female of the species. Therefore, the words 'man' and 'woman' have lots of precedents in our language. Yet animals such as the elephant and giraffe do not have derivative words for the females so why don't we just stop using the word 'woman', call everyone a man and then everyone is equal?!

I have yet to have the privilege of discussing this with a woke .....
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Old 31st May 2021, 22:27
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I have every sympathy with women who object to holding the rank of Senior Aircraftsman. Changing it to, where appropriate, Senior Aircraftswoman seems entirely reasonable and does not change the SAC abbreviation.
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