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They would have done an outstanding job!
About 20 suitably-equipped helicopters and a squadron of highly current SH pilots doing hundreds of hours a year in N Ireland, rather than aircraft dragged out of storage and crews recalled from ground tours etc. There again: I'm biased!
About 20 suitably-equipped helicopters and a squadron of highly current SH pilots doing hundreds of hours a year in N Ireland, rather than aircraft dragged out of storage and crews recalled from ground tours etc. There again: I'm biased!
The Argentine Army operated another two CH-47C. One of them was destroyed by a BAE Sea Harrier FRS1 on June 21st. The remainder was not fully operational for the rest of the war. It was suffering engine problems, and it was taken by the British after the Argentine surrender.
Boeing Vertol CH-47C Chinooks were operating on both sides during the conflict. Argentine Air Force had two Chinook operating until June 1st. Those were flown back to the continent and survive the war.
The Argentine Army operated another two CH-47C. One of them was destroyed by a BAE Sea Harrier FRS1 on June 21st. The remainder was not fully operational for the rest of the war. It was suffering engine problems, and it was taken by the British after the Argentine surrender.
The Argentine Army operated another two CH-47C. One of them was destroyed by a BAE Sea Harrier FRS1 on June 21st. The remainder was not fully operational for the rest of the war. It was suffering engine problems, and it was taken by the British after the Argentine surrender.
Boeing Vertol CH-47C Chinooks were operating on both sides during the conflict. Argentine Air Force had two Chinook operating until June 1st. Those were flown back to the continent and survive the war.
The Argentine Army operated another two CH-47C. One of them was destroyed by a BAE Sea Harrier FRS1 on June 21st. The remainder was not fully operational for the rest of the war. It was suffering engine problems, and it was taken by the British after the Argentine surrender.
The Argentine Army operated another two CH-47C. One of them was destroyed by a BAE Sea Harrier FRS1 on June 21st. The remainder was not fully operational for the rest of the war. It was suffering engine problems, and it was taken by the British after the Argentine surrender.
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Yup. Dick Langworthy flying on PGNs at low level on the night of 30th May; entered a snow-storm and hit a lake. Spray entered both engines as they bounced, causing loss of rpm. Crewman was preparing to jump out of the back and the co jettisoned his door in anticipation of a watery crash-landing but the engines recovered and they climbed away with Dick encouraging the crewman not to jump!
Co-pilot's door was robbed from the argentine CH47 found abandoned on the racecourse outside Stanley. BN went on to live a long and fruitful life.
Mog
Co-pilot's door was robbed from the argentine CH47 found abandoned on the racecourse outside Stanley. BN went on to live a long and fruitful life.
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Door was later recovered when it washed ashore. Ahhh apart of life now so long ago.
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Thank you for bringing this topic up. I can remember that only BN's port door was missing when I arrived at Port San Carlos and it flew several sorties before a replacement was found, I had forgotten where it came from but suspected it was from an Argie Chinook. BN also flew with a missing ramp tongue but the reason for that is lost in the mists of time.
Another big piece of liberated Chinook kit was a brand new APU, still unopened in it's Boeing/Vertol packing crate and with all necessary paperwork. It was found in one of the sheep station manager's out-buildings at Port San Carlos and claimed by the 18 Sqn detachment.
Another big piece of liberated Chinook kit was a brand new APU, still unopened in it's Boeing/Vertol packing crate and with all necessary paperwork. It was found in one of the sheep station manager's out-buildings at Port San Carlos and claimed by the 18 Sqn detachment.
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Thank you for bringing this topic up. I can remember that only BN's port door was missing when I arrived at Port San Carlos and it flew several sorties before a replacement was found, I had forgotten where it came from but suspected it was from an Argie Chinook. BN also flew with a missing ramp tongue but the reason for that is lost in the mists of time.
Another big piece of liberated Chinook kit was a brand new APU, still unopened in it's Boeing/Vertol packing crate and with all necessary paperwork. It was found in one of the sheep station manager's out-buildings at Port San Carlos and claimed by the 18 Sqn detachment.
Another big piece of liberated Chinook kit was a brand new APU, still unopened in it's Boeing/Vertol packing crate and with all necessary paperwork. It was found in one of the sheep station manager's out-buildings at Port San Carlos and claimed by the 18 Sqn detachment.
as for the model mentioned as a CH 47C on both sides, the RAF version was a bit of a mongrel being more a C/D model. Happy days.
Yup. Dick Langworthy flying on PGNs at low level on the night of 30th May; entered a snow-storm and hit a lake. Spray entered both engines as they bounced, causing loss of rpm. Crewman was preparing to jump out of the back and the co jettisoned his door in anticipation of a watery crash-landing but the engines recovered and they climbed away with Dick encouraging the crewman not to jump!
Co-pilot's door was robbed from the argentine CH47 found abandoned on the racecourse outside Stanley. BN went on to live a long and fruitful life.
Mog
Co-pilot's door was robbed from the argentine CH47 found abandoned on the racecourse outside Stanley. BN went on to live a long and fruitful life.
Mog
Door was later recovered when it washed ashore. Ahhh apart of life now so long ago.
some other folks pics that might not have been seen
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/...s-info-needed/
some other folks pics that might not have been seen
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I have the honour of having Bravo November in my logbook - flying around Europe and waving the flag!
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Great stuff Mogwi, Thank you for taking the the time. One more if I may? While much has been touted about the AIM-9L "Lima" performance, what are your thoughts on how things would have gone with earlier versions of the Sidewinder on the Sea Harriers? It seems many of the engagements were from the rear hemisphere. Think you would have gotten a tone with the "old" AIM-9?
My first shot was fired below 50' and may or may not have worked with a G but the second, although fired in the stern sector, impacted at at more like 90 degrees. I have not seen any analysis of whether a G fusing would have handled this but maybe Gum can help.
There was obviously a psychological factor as well, as the opposition knew we were fielding the L, with its well deserved, awesome reputation.
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39 years ago today, I led a 3-ship Harrier GR3 attack against AAA that was being used in direct fire against the 2 Para attack on Goose Green.
The attack using CBU's and 2" rockets was successful and put the guns out of action. I am told that it helped to de-moralise the Argentinians, and bolstered the morale of the attacking Paras. So it helped.
We were held at cockpit readiness on the deck of HERMES at first light the next day to go to do a "firepower demo" in the same area if the Argentinians didn't surrender - they did, so I went elsewhere.
Given the importance of that first major battle after the landings, the successful surrender at Goose Green set the scene for the next few weeks and the final surrender.
The attack using CBU's and 2" rockets was successful and put the guns out of action. I am told that it helped to de-moralise the Argentinians, and bolstered the morale of the attacking Paras. So it helped.
We were held at cockpit readiness on the deck of HERMES at first light the next day to go to do a "firepower demo" in the same area if the Argentinians didn't surrender - they did, so I went elsewhere.
Given the importance of that first major battle after the landings, the successful surrender at Goose Green set the scene for the next few weeks and the final surrender.
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According to a Para I spoke to who was pinned down by the 35mm AAA on Darwin Hill, this attack by ExFJ was the one thing which allowed them to restart their advance towards Goose Green and undoubtedly saved a great many British lives.
Possibly the most significant Harrier attack of the conflict and was very largely responsible for the successful outcome of the first major land battle. BZ to No1(F) and 2 Para.
Mog
Possibly the most significant Harrier attack of the conflict and was very largely responsible for the successful outcome of the first major land battle. BZ to No1(F) and 2 Para.
Mog
I have always held the Falklands Harrier pilots in the highest regard ( flying a single engine jet in hostile skies off a carrier in the South Atlantic, often in crap weather with no divs ) but reading in this book that they sometimes got airborne with not much more fuel, 2,400 pounds, than we had in Jet Provosts, raised my regard yet higher !