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A-400M trailing - what?

Old 9th Apr 2021, 11:00
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MODS,
The way this is going, perhaps you should "unclose" the Grey Ladies thread from 10 years ago
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Red Shovels?
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Originally Posted by airsound
Ripton and teej013 - I wasn't thinking of continuing with the Red Arrows name. Maybe something rather, well, British - like The Grey Grizzlies

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Perhaps just The Greys after our new masters.



No need to panic though, you'll forget you've just read this thread after the next A400M pass.
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 11:43
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We had the "Green Barrows" at Lyneham ;5 Hercs,usually led by `Invincible Stu`...`Twinkle rolls ` were more `twangle rolls` as the co-pilots 4 lunches were spread over the cockpits of #3 and #4, passing the `inverted,and #5 always had problems remaining `plugged -in` to me(#4 tanker) during the `finale bomburst`.....
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Originally Posted by airsound
Living quite close to Brize, we see a lot of Voyagers, Atlases, and, for the time being, Hercs. Today, something rather odd: an A-400M, flying a standard orbit pattern at 7000ft (according to Flightradar24) aligned roughly 280 (degrees) over Little Rissington, for about an hour. The odd thing is that it was trailing what looked like short contrails. At 7000ft?
A rather poor pic - but you can see the trails.




Looking through binoculars, I could see the trails emanating from the wing trailing edge, between the outboard engines and the wingtips - i.e. not wingtip vortices, nor engine exhausts.

I even rang Brize ops to ask if it was dumping fuel. A very nice duty ops officer told me it was definitely not dumping, but that it was doing a trial. No more details.

Anyone else think it’s rather odd? Any ideas?

Yes OK, I’ll try and get out more, soon as Covid is over.

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You don't see any C-17s?
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 12:35
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
The Fat Lasses?

I do recall a formation transport team the last time I went to RIAT - might have been four Polish Let 410s? Long time ago now, I remember a sort of Prince of Wales Feathers as finale...
Yeah, that jogs a deep and forgotten memory. Can't find anything on google though. Was in the mid/late 90s I think?
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Czech "Szobi Kvartet" L-410s

Video from 1993 RIAT at: https://flic.kr/p/KQpP4D
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
A four Argosy formation team? my mind has just been boggled!!
Any photos any one pleeeze?
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Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur
Any photos any one pleeeze?
Where’s JW411, he might know.
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Originally Posted by Commander Taco
Where’s JW411, he might know.
It was before JW was posted to Aden, in 65/66. Most of our "fun" was during Bahrain paradropping detachments, but we did incur the Bosses wrath at Khormaksar, which was was cancelled out by a Flight Commanders enthusiasm for the project and an almost perfect fighter style run and break shortly after a rather scruffy version by 8 Squadron! Vive la Thunderboxes!
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Old 10th Apr 2021, 08:51
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Originally Posted by Vzlet
Video from 1993 RIAT at: https://flic.kr/p/KQpP4D
Well done Sir, excellent memory! Was the video shot from the north side of the airfield?
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Treadigraph - No, from the south. The bomb burst was head-on to the crowd. (And, for the most part, the video serves as my memory!)
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That's what I thought - did the box aircraft come over the crowd?
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You don't see any C-17s?
Yes, of course I do - and I’ve no idea why I forgot to mention them. I can only apologise, and hope no offence was taken....

Everyone else - thanks for all the good stuff about Atlasses (Fat or not) and their flaps.

And finally - I was trying to find my RIAT notes from 1993 on the Szobi Kvartet, but failed. I do remember, though, that the Czech L-410s were always welcome, because in the back of at least one of them was usually to be found a barrel of excellent Czech beer.

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Old 10th Apr 2021, 20:14
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Overflying the Crowd

I don't remember explicitly, but I assume I was west of show center and that the slot aircraft was authorized to continue over the crowd there because it was no longer in formation, and was in slow-speed, non-maneuvering flight.
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Someone was flushing the loo.
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Old 11th Apr 2021, 15:02
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
Someone was flushing the loo.
The A400 had two outside loos, who knew?
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
The A400 had two outside loos, who knew?
Well it does have two patios. Although I think they are officially called retractable parachute jump steps.
When we first saw them proposed in the specification meetings we idly discussed if they could be used in conjunction with the air deflector, to locate a seat for Maritime search role observer.
I also seem to recall positioning a barbecue on them being mentioned. - the length of those meetings got to you at times.
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Originally Posted by VX275
Well it does have two patios. Although I think they are officially called retractable parachute jump steps.
When we first saw them proposed in the specification meetings we idly discussed if they could be used in conjunction with the air deflector, to locate a seat for Maritime search role observer.
I also seem to recall positioning a barbecue on them being mentioned. - the length of those meetings got to you at times.
I should think you would need sizeable anchor points to stop the patio umbrellas disappearing in the slipstream. IIRC the Harrier had a parasol for the pilot - perhaps something similar could be used?
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Well guess what - and The....Bird will be happy with this - these trials are still going on, but now they've got C-17s as well as A-400Ms. The ADBSexchange screenshot below is a C-17 doing the same orbits over the Cotswolds today - but no trails this time.

I'm wondering if they're surveying the old secret submarine pens concealed beneath the River Windrush. Oops, I've said too much. If I don't post again, you'll know why......

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