Canada Looking at the A330 MRTT procurement
In the category of selling us anything, those Victoria class submarines from the UK are hard to beat (no offense to my UK friends here, you got us!)
Inform yourself before posting such drivel. The Airbus tanker would more than our needs without the reinventing the wheel aspect of the Boeing product.
You must not live here if you think DoD is Francophile lol, must be why we have so much French kit (0, zilch, nada) in our Forces! I would take a Rafale over a bloated (for our needs) F35 any day.
In the category of selling us anything, those Victoria class submarines from the UK are hard to beat (no offense to my UK friends here, you got us!)
Inform yourself before posting such drivel. The Airbus tanker would more than our needs without the reinventing the wheel aspect of the Boeing product.
In the category of selling us anything, those Victoria class submarines from the UK are hard to beat (no offense to my UK friends here, you got us!)
Inform yourself before posting such drivel. The Airbus tanker would more than our needs without the reinventing the wheel aspect of the Boeing product.
...and now buying our cast off fighter junk! We do like our KC-30's/Super Hornets/Growlers/F-35's.....
Certainly the RCAF guys who took part in OP MOBILE rated the Rafale very highly. Agile, twin-engined safety and it has a vastly higher refuelling rate than the Typhoon. Or the F-35B, for than matter!
Quite which variant of F-35 would best suit the RCAF is difficult to assess. Certainly noe the -B; the -C is more expensive than the -A but unlike the -A, is fitted for probe and drogue AAR and has a greater internal fuel capacity. The -A could be fitted for probe and drogue, but LM would doubtless demand huge R&D costs to be paid by Canada.
The decision between the Hornet E/F, some variant of F-35 or the Gripen E will be made in 2022. For reliable operation in cold climes, the Gripen has proved to be outstanding.
But if the RCAF turns down the F-35, no doubt the F-18E/F will be chosen....eh?
Quite which variant of F-35 would best suit the RCAF is difficult to assess. Certainly noe the -B; the -C is more expensive than the -A but unlike the -A, is fitted for probe and drogue AAR and has a greater internal fuel capacity. The -A could be fitted for probe and drogue, but LM would doubtless demand huge R&D costs to be paid by Canada.
The decision between the Hornet E/F, some variant of F-35 or the Gripen E will be made in 2022. For reliable operation in cold climes, the Gripen has proved to be outstanding.
But if the RCAF turns down the F-35, no doubt the F-18E/F will be chosen....eh?
Canada's defense procurement has a colorful, very questionable track record, lately. Be it useless British cast off subs, scandals about building naval vessels, new fighter jets, us "Torontonians" seem to continually elect folks without a shred of common sense about equipping our forces. The more some say things will change, the more they keep repeating mistakes of yesteryear!
You must not live here if you think DoD is Francophile lol, must be why we have so much French kit (0, zilch, nada) in our Forces! I would take a Rafale over a bloated (for our needs) F35 any day.
In the category of selling us anything, those Victoria class submarines from the UK are hard to beat (no offense to my UK friends here, you got us!)
Inform yourself before posting such drivel. The Airbus tanker would more than our needs without the reinventing the wheel aspect of the Boeing product.
In the category of selling us anything, those Victoria class submarines from the UK are hard to beat (no offense to my UK friends here, you got us!)
Inform yourself before posting such drivel. The Airbus tanker would more than our needs without the reinventing the wheel aspect of the Boeing product.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022...nker-aircraft/
Canada plans to buy four new Airbus tankers, requests proposal
VICTORIA, British Columbia — The Canadian government expects to award a contract next year to Airbus for four new strategic tanker transport aircraft, according to the country’s National Defence Department. The cost of the contract is yet to be determined, but the government has allocated up to CA$5 billion (U.S. $4 billion) to purchase the planes.
Airbus was designated as the only supplier qualified to provide the tankers to the Royal Canadian Air Force. As a result, a formal request for its proposal for the planes was issued to the firm on May 13, 2022. National Defence Department spokeswoman Jessica Lamirande said the government has not yet received the proposal.
“Once Airbus’ response is received, an assessment and negotiation will occur,” Lamirande said, noting that a contract is expected to be awarded by April 2023.
The Canadian Armed Forces found the Airbus A330 MRTT, a refueling and transport plane, is the only aircraft qualified for the job. The Air Force wants the first of the A330s operational by 2028.
The new aircraft are part of Canada’s Strategic Tanker Transport Capability project, meant to replace the existing CC-150 Polaris aircraft flown by the Royal Canadian Air Force. Those refueling and transport planes have been in operation since 1992.
Originally six new aircraft were to be purchased as part of the Strategic Tanker Transport Capability project. But on July 14, Canadian Defence Minister Anita Anand announced the military would acquire two used Airbus A330s and eventually upgrade those to become part of the Air Force’s tanker and transport fleet. Canada acquired those used aircraft, built in 2015, from International Airfinance Corp., a global aircraft leasing company, in a deal worth about $102 million.
Lamirande said the COVID-19 pandemic’s impact on the commercial aviation industry created favorable market conditions to procure the used A330-200 aircraft at the best value for Canada. The government is scheduled to receive the aircraft in December 2022 and April 2023, and then ferry them to the country shortly after, she added.
“There are a number of predelivery and acceptance activities that need to be completed before any used aircraft will arrive in Canada” Lamirande said. Those include scheduled preventive maintenance, limited retrofit to prepare for service within the Air Force, painting of the aircraft, final delivery inspection and acceptance checks.
The used aircraft are currently configured for long-haul commercial use. They will initially be used for an interim period to perform cargo and troop airlift operations, said Lamirande. The planes could also be used to transport civilian passengers during humanitarian relief operations, as well as fly VIPs, such as Canada’s prime minister.
These used aircraft will, after an interim period of operations, be turned over to Airbus for conversion to the MRTT configuration as the other four new aircraft expected to be purchased.
Canada plans to buy four new Airbus tankers, requests proposal
VICTORIA, British Columbia — The Canadian government expects to award a contract next year to Airbus for four new strategic tanker transport aircraft, according to the country’s National Defence Department. The cost of the contract is yet to be determined, but the government has allocated up to CA$5 billion (U.S. $4 billion) to purchase the planes.
Airbus was designated as the only supplier qualified to provide the tankers to the Royal Canadian Air Force. As a result, a formal request for its proposal for the planes was issued to the firm on May 13, 2022. National Defence Department spokeswoman Jessica Lamirande said the government has not yet received the proposal.
“Once Airbus’ response is received, an assessment and negotiation will occur,” Lamirande said, noting that a contract is expected to be awarded by April 2023.
The Canadian Armed Forces found the Airbus A330 MRTT, a refueling and transport plane, is the only aircraft qualified for the job. The Air Force wants the first of the A330s operational by 2028.
The new aircraft are part of Canada’s Strategic Tanker Transport Capability project, meant to replace the existing CC-150 Polaris aircraft flown by the Royal Canadian Air Force. Those refueling and transport planes have been in operation since 1992.
Originally six new aircraft were to be purchased as part of the Strategic Tanker Transport Capability project. But on July 14, Canadian Defence Minister Anita Anand announced the military would acquire two used Airbus A330s and eventually upgrade those to become part of the Air Force’s tanker and transport fleet. Canada acquired those used aircraft, built in 2015, from International Airfinance Corp., a global aircraft leasing company, in a deal worth about $102 million.
Lamirande said the COVID-19 pandemic’s impact on the commercial aviation industry created favorable market conditions to procure the used A330-200 aircraft at the best value for Canada. The government is scheduled to receive the aircraft in December 2022 and April 2023, and then ferry them to the country shortly after, she added.
“There are a number of predelivery and acceptance activities that need to be completed before any used aircraft will arrive in Canada” Lamirande said. Those include scheduled preventive maintenance, limited retrofit to prepare for service within the Air Force, painting of the aircraft, final delivery inspection and acceptance checks.
The used aircraft are currently configured for long-haul commercial use. They will initially be used for an interim period to perform cargo and troop airlift operations, said Lamirande. The planes could also be used to transport civilian passengers during humanitarian relief operations, as well as fly VIPs, such as Canada’s prime minister.
These used aircraft will, after an interim period of operations, be turned over to Airbus for conversion to the MRTT configuration as the other four new aircraft expected to be purchased.
To meet both its Tanker and VIP roles, rather like the UK does.
https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a330-canadian-government-jet/?utm_source=Bibblio
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https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a330-canadian-government-jet/?utm_source=Bibblio
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and four are ordered
https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/p...bus-a330-mrtts
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Getafe, Spain / Ottawa, Canada - 25 July 2023 – The Government of Canada has awarded Airbus Defence and Space with a contract for four newly-built Airbus A330 Multi Role Tanker Transport aircraft (MRTT) and for the conversion of five used A330-200s in a quest to strengthen Canada’s continental defence capabilities. The current contract has an order value of approximately CAD $3 billion or 2.1€ billion (excluding taxes).
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The newly-built A330-200s will be assembled at the A330 aircraft Final Assembly Line in Toulouse, France. Scheduled to enter into conversion at A330 MRTT facilities in Getafe, Spain, in mid-2025, the first MRTT will be delivered to the RCAF in 2027.
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Under the agreement, the A330 MRTTs will be equipped with both the hose and drogue and a boom as refuelling options, cybersecurity solutions and countermeasures. All of them could be installed with the also included Airbus Medical Evacuation kit solution, consisting of 2 Intensive Care Units and additional stretchers.
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The newly-built A330-200s will be assembled at the A330 aircraft Final Assembly Line in Toulouse, France. Scheduled to enter into conversion at A330 MRTT facilities in Getafe, Spain, in mid-2025, the first MRTT will be delivered to the RCAF in 2027.
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Under the agreement, the A330 MRTTs will be equipped with both the hose and drogue and a boom as refuelling options, cybersecurity solutions and countermeasures. All of them could be installed with the also included Airbus Medical Evacuation kit solution, consisting of 2 Intensive Care Units and additional stretchers.
Got this from Ottawa Aviation FB page, of the first former airliner now in RCAF markings
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who gets to sit in the 2-2-2 seats?
