Is Ukraine about to have a war?
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Hoping they hold the night, totally and utterly with the Ukraine..
I do think we should now be involved, even if putting up a no fly zone, as said by the ex pm it’s Ukrainian air and they have the right to invite anyone into it. parts of NATO are saying if we are cyber attacked that would trigger NATO into action, I wonder what Putin is viewing the ongoing supply of munitions by NATO that is decimating his forces, it’s a fine line between pulling the trigger yourself and helping someone else too.
I do think we should now be involved, even if putting up a no fly zone, as said by the ex pm it’s Ukrainian air and they have the right to invite anyone into it. parts of NATO are saying if we are cyber attacked that would trigger NATO into action, I wonder what Putin is viewing the ongoing supply of munitions by NATO that is decimating his forces, it’s a fine line between pulling the trigger yourself and helping someone else too.
Putin's Failure – PJ Media
Ukraine has not won; not in the military sense. It has lost territory, suffered significant losses to soldier and civilian, endured massive property damage. But crucially it has not lost — and that may be enough. Attention is now turning to the possible danger that may attend Putin’s fall. While he appears to remain firmly in power, the ex-chekist cannot but be weakened by the massive failure of his gamble.
The crisis in Ukraine, while not over, is likely to evolve into a crisis in Russia. We shall soon see who is more to be feared: a Putin in Kyiv or a Putin raging in the bunker.
CDS and PUS put a statement out at the start of this on MODNET. They left comments enabled. First comment from an Infantry SNCO - so are you going to stop the cuts now? Response - ‘Ack’.
This is your alarm call Boris. Do something about it while you can. What did Churchill do …
This is your alarm call Boris. Do something about it while you can. What did Churchill do …
No, not having a laugh. Deadly serious.
Open your eyes - Putin is not in Ukraine. Putin is not invading Ukraine, Russia is! The Russian military is slaughtering innocent people, under orders from Putin sure, but they are doing the killing. Putin is not firing rockets - the military is. They are already going out of their way to commit atrocities. Open you eyes and see what is happening m! The world we lived in last week is dead. It has gone forever. A new order is coming no matter how much you might disagree, and we must do our upmost to ensure it preserves humanity.
To do this, we must ensure Russia is crushed, decapitated and utterly subdued. They must never be allowed a military, and must be kept as a vassal of the remainder of the world - they are only a superpower because we allow them to be, and they have proven themselves to be unworthy of any power whatsoever.
Time to change the world order.
Open your eyes - Putin is not in Ukraine. Putin is not invading Ukraine, Russia is! The Russian military is slaughtering innocent people, under orders from Putin sure, but they are doing the killing. Putin is not firing rockets - the military is. They are already going out of their way to commit atrocities. Open you eyes and see what is happening m! The world we lived in last week is dead. It has gone forever. A new order is coming no matter how much you might disagree, and we must do our upmost to ensure it preserves humanity.
To do this, we must ensure Russia is crushed, decapitated and utterly subdued. They must never be allowed a military, and must be kept as a vassal of the remainder of the world - they are only a superpower because we allow them to be, and they have proven themselves to be unworthy of any power whatsoever.
Time to change the world order.
take it away from America.
Living in a fantasy doesn’t help anyone. You need realistic options to change the world.
No, not having a laugh. Deadly serious.
Open your eyes - Putin is not in Ukraine. Putin is not invading Ukraine, Russia is! The Russian military is slaughtering innocent people, under orders from Putin sure, but they are doing the killing. Putin is not firing rockets - the military is. They are already going out of their way to commit atrocities. Open you eyes and see what is happening m! The world we lived in last week is dead. It has gone forever. A new order is coming no matter how much you might disagree, and we must do our upmost to ensure it preserves humanity.
To do this, we must ensure Russia is crushed, decapitated and utterly subdued. They must never be allowed a military, and must be kept as a vassal of the remainder of the world - they are only a superpower because we allow them to be, and they have proven themselves to be unworthy of any power whatsoever.
Time to change the world order.
Open your eyes - Putin is not in Ukraine. Putin is not invading Ukraine, Russia is! The Russian military is slaughtering innocent people, under orders from Putin sure, but they are doing the killing. Putin is not firing rockets - the military is. They are already going out of their way to commit atrocities. Open you eyes and see what is happening m! The world we lived in last week is dead. It has gone forever. A new order is coming no matter how much you might disagree, and we must do our upmost to ensure it preserves humanity.
To do this, we must ensure Russia is crushed, decapitated and utterly subdued. They must never be allowed a military, and must be kept as a vassal of the remainder of the world - they are only a superpower because we allow them to be, and they have proven themselves to be unworthy of any power whatsoever.
Time to change the world order.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I'm sorry but changing Putin with Hitler and Russia with Third Reich this text could well be from 1945.
No matter, they didn’t. But apart from nuclear weapons Russia is, at best, a second rate power. It’s GDP is the equivalent of Spain’s, it’s population is the same as Spain’s (which is why they were upset at how they were treated by the EU in negotiations).
The world, especially NATO, is walking on eggshells around them whilst they act as if they are invulnerable - the risk is that others, especially China, North Korea and Iran will do the same.
it si, perhaps, time to accept that nuclear weapons are an unusable weapon. Any user, including Russia, will suffer immediate overwhelming response if they use them. Russia won’t use them if other nations help defend Ukraine - otherwise why would he believe NATO nations would help defend, say, Estonia? We are back to the Yes Prime Minister quandary.
Otherwise would we defend Estonia, or Lithuania, or Latvia, or Poland…
Inidividual nations are not NATO. France and the UK are (at least for a few days) in Mali, the UK and USA are still in Syria, operating in strained conditions against Russia, etc.
There is no reason why the UK or USA should not provide F-35 squadrons to provide air cover over Ukraine outside NATO, or squadrons of AH-64s to defend Kyiv if asked.
If Putin threatens retaliation, ask his military and cabinet if the debacle in Ukraine is worth the price of nuclear war.
The Russians can just siphon everything through the non sanctioned banks. It’s either all of them or none of them.
"Units in Russia's vast army have got lost in Ukraine and some have run out of fuel as poor planning"
Could read as a post-exercise report on Stanta, Otterburn or Salisbury Plain!
(tongue firmly in cheek!)
Could read as a post-exercise report on Stanta, Otterburn or Salisbury Plain!
(tongue firmly in cheek!)
Last edited by cynicalint; 26th Feb 2022 at 23:01.
No, not having a laugh. Deadly serious.
Open your eyes - Putin is not in Ukraine. Putin is not invading Ukraine, Russia is! The Russian military is slaughtering innocent people, under orders from Putin sure, but they are doing the killing. Putin is not firing rockets - the military is. They are already going out of their way to commit atrocities. Open you eyes and see what is happening m! The world we lived in last week is dead. It has gone forever. A new order is coming no matter how much you might disagree, and we must do our upmost to ensure it preserves humanity.
To do this, we must ensure Russia is crushed, decapitated and utterly subdued. They must never be allowed a military, and must be kept as a vassal of the remainder of the world - they are only a superpower because we allow them to be, and they have proven themselves to be unworthy of any power whatsoever.
Time to change the world order.
Open your eyes - Putin is not in Ukraine. Putin is not invading Ukraine, Russia is! The Russian military is slaughtering innocent people, under orders from Putin sure, but they are doing the killing. Putin is not firing rockets - the military is. They are already going out of their way to commit atrocities. Open you eyes and see what is happening m! The world we lived in last week is dead. It has gone forever. A new order is coming no matter how much you might disagree, and we must do our upmost to ensure it preserves humanity.
To do this, we must ensure Russia is crushed, decapitated and utterly subdued. They must never be allowed a military, and must be kept as a vassal of the remainder of the world - they are only a superpower because we allow them to be, and they have proven themselves to be unworthy of any power whatsoever.
Time to change the world order.
Life expectancy fell by 5 years between 1990 and 1994, an unprecedented such drop for any industrialized country anywhere. The whole country's people suffered in ways reminiscent of the siege of Leningrad. The kleptocracy that emerged to run Russia today is a direct result.
With that precedent, Russia will never again submit to foreign guidance.
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No they are a world superpower because they have one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world. You are not going to take that away from them, just like you would never be able to
take it away from America.
Living in a fantasy doesn’t help anyone. You need realistic options to change the world.
take it away from America.
Living in a fantasy doesn’t help anyone. You need realistic options to change the world.