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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 2nd Apr 2023, 19:46
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Cui bono is a bit murky. Possibly the coalface information trickling up from mobiks to his blog had value to Ukraine intelligence, and the disclosures were embarrassing to Vlad. Useful idiot comes to mind.

It's not unknown for Vlad's people to take out reporters they no longer want around, but bombing your own rabid fans is generally thought counterproductive.

Of course Vlad will be heaping blame on Ukrainian "terrorists" while the Ukrainians will neither confirm nor deny.
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Old 2nd Apr 2023, 20:22
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Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
Apparently the Russian propaganda machine shares that thought. And those folks do not say anything that the Kremlin hasn't approved.


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Old 2nd Apr 2023, 21:22
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Challenger 2 spotted in the woods somewhere in Ukraine. No TES armour fitted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...eb2x&context=3
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A precursor of a counter attack?

​​​​​​​ Joint suppression of enemy air defenses (J-SEAD) by Ukrainian military forces on a large scale against Russians ground based air defenses (GBAD) has near term operational implications.
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how much goes Int othe missile and how much into baksheesh and graft???

Russian X-101 missile cost about 13 millions of dollars each...

Here is the head internals... Some duck tape, some 2$ voltage transformers from AliExpress...






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Old 2nd Apr 2023, 23:07
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Originally Posted by ORAC
A precursor of a counter attack?

Joint suppression of enemy air defenses (J-SEAD) by Ukrainian military forces on a large scale against Russians ground based air defenses (GBAD) has near term operational implications.
Since eastern Ukraine has just experienced its heaviest snow-fall for 10 years and warm weather is following , producing the inevitable , famous mud, one would have to say that seems unlikely

" Weather forecasters have said that the snowstorm is the strongest to hit southern Russia and eastern Ukraine at this time of the year in 10 years.Warmer weather is expected shortly, which will melt the snow and turn the trenches to sticky mud, the start of a season called “rasputitsa” in Russia and Ukraine, when travel is notoriously tough."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...ng-impossible/

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Old 2nd Apr 2023, 23:17
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Since eastern Ukraine has just experienced its heaviest snow-fall for 10 years and warm weather is following , producing the inevitable , famous mud, one would have to say that seems unlikely

" Weather forecasters have said that the snowstorm is the strongest to hit southern Russia and eastern Ukraine at this time of the year in 10 years.Warmer weather is expected shortly, which will melt the snow and turn the trenches to sticky mud, the start of a season called “rasputitsa” in Russia and Ukraine, when travel is notoriously tough."

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That is going to truly suck for the poor Ukrainian soldiers stuck in a trench.
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Old 2nd Apr 2023, 23:21
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Let’s not go that way.

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80 Leopard 2 and 160 Leopard 1’s are the count so far that Ukraine will eventually receive

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Old 3rd Apr 2023, 00:25
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“Russian” priest beating up a Ukrainian army volunteer, the locals have ejected the priests and handed it over to the Ukrainian church.


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Old 3rd Apr 2023, 00:55
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A Russians view, watch to the end

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Hmmmm

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Old 3rd Apr 2023, 01:10
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Appear well stocked with fuel and supplies, going somewhere? Heli bothers me as does not look Eastern.

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More on the priests v the Ukrainian serviceman, Ukrainian priests now in charge Russian ones ejected.

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Grauniad:

Russia’s security forces are confiscating the passports of senior officials and state company executives due to paranoia over potential leaks and defections, the Financial Times is reporting.

Citing several people familiar with the matter, the paper’s Moscow bureau chief Max Seddon writes in a paywalled report:

The increased pressure reflects deep suspicion in the Kremlin and FSB, the KGB’s successor agency, about the loyalty of Russia’s civilian elite, many of whom privately oppose the war in Ukraine and are chafing over its impact on their lifestyles.

A spokesperson for Putin confirmed that Russia had tightened its restrictions on foreign travel for some people workers in “sensitive” areas.
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Old 3rd Apr 2023, 06:42
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Originally Posted by ORAC
how much goes Int othe missile and how much into baksheesh and graft???



Russian X-101 missile cost about 13 millions of dollars each...

Here is the head internals... Some duck tape, some 2$ voltage transformers from AliExpress...





Those PCB's look like the cheapest commercial OTS components. Possibly a crude buck-converter power supply. Not sure why it needs a three-digit LED segment display. A smattering of discrete semiconductors, op-amps or dc regulators, capacitors, resistors and multi-turn potentiometers, an unpotted inductor, D-type connectors, handwired looms wound with insulation tape.

All early 1970's commercial Radio-Spares technology apart from these being surface-mount which was around by the late 70's/early 80's in Western development. From a military perspective, I shudder to think of the reliability of this kit straight off the production line, let alone after years of storage.

The most expensive item there is the milled aluminium chassis and the wiring looms.
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Old 3rd Apr 2023, 07:24
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Those PCB's look like the cheapest commercial OTS components.........................​​​
That looks like a prototype construction. I can't believe that came off of an assembly line.
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25 year woman arrested for murder of Tartarsky.

Where she got the bust, or who gave it to her, and whether she knew what was in waits to be seen. She stayed around near the seat of the explosion asking questions, so may well have been unaware of its contents….

Darya Trepova, a resident of St. Petersburg, has been detained on suspicion of murdering war correspondent Vladlen Tatarsky, Interfax reported.

The young woman, born in 1997, was taken to an investigator, the agency's interlocutor said. The investigation has grounds to believe that Trepova brought a box with a bust of Tatarsky with an explosive device in it to a cafe.

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Uberteknik,

Link to tweet about the missile above with more photos and some discussion.

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Caution - military aviation content alert.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...setting-traps/
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