Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 29th Mar 2023, 18:57
  #15861 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Frensham
Posts: 850
Received 93 Likes on 49 Posts
Originally Posted by 212man
someone being killed, I guess.
Yes, several.

It's a good video as it gives a breakdown of what was happening, which was quite unclear from the original Twitter video. You also get to see how close the BMP and Russian troops were to the trench.
Wokkafans is offline  
Old 29th Mar 2023, 21:31
  #15862 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 149
Received 11 Likes on 8 Posts
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by Wokkafans
Following on from Nutty's post about the "Predator," here's an interview with him. Big balls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmZD...glishSubtitles
Guys got the Vision, and balls
MJ89 is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 02:41
  #15863 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,317
Received 3,157 Likes on 1,322 Posts
Is it me or are these lot now talking of defeat and ending it now on Russian TV?


An interesting comment was mentioned in it too…


NutLoose is offline  
The following 3 users liked this post by NutLoose:
Old 30th Mar 2023, 03:27
  #15864 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Japan
Posts: 2,027
Received 161 Likes on 98 Posts
When they get angry enough, the truth starts to flash out in dangerous spikes.

I'd like to give you a like, Nutty, but I don't like it. It gives me a knot in the stomach. I feel sorry for the Russian populace who have been tricked and check-mated by those who would, should have led them in a good and fruitful direction.

To give him a way out, why can't Putin just say, "OK, we've taught them the lesson that I had warned them about and promised. We've mashed the lands and cities up real good for both Ukrainians and Russian-speaking Ukrainians alike. That's enough for now; it's getting boring, we're heading home."(?)
"Oh, and if you annoy us again, we're coming back!"
jolihokistix is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 03:47
  #15865 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Sydney
Posts: 154
Received 33 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by jolihokistix

.....To give him a way out, why can't Putin just say, "OK, we've taught them the lesson that I had warned them about and promised. ....That's enough for now; it's getting boring, we're heading home."(?)
"Oh, and if you annoy us again, we're coming back!"
I doubt that's a realistic option. Autocrats rule by strength, or the perception of it. If Russia loses in the Ukraine, Putin won't be quietly retiring to his dacha and joining the speaker's circuit.
It's victory or death for him.
JustinHeywood is online now  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 04:24
  #15866 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Yakima
Posts: 616
Received 241 Likes on 103 Posts
Originally Posted by NutLoose
Is it me or are these lot now talking of defeat and ending it now on Russian TV?



https://youtu.be/AiNfWXBbg4A

An interesting comment was mentioned in it too…

Holy F**k!!! This is the most I have ever heard official Russkie TV admit things aren't going well. To even bring up the reality of the situation is amazing. Unfortunately, for Russia, this is some solid and honest analysis. How will Russkie persons react to this? Is this an official start to understanding the end?
Winemaker is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 04:28
  #15867 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Yakima
Posts: 616
Received 241 Likes on 103 Posts
Originally Posted by jolihokistix
When they get angry enough, the truth starts to flash out in dangerous spikes.

I'd like to give you a like, Nutty, but I don't like it. It gives me a knot in the stomach. I feel sorry for the Russian populace who have been tricked and check-mated by those who would, should have led them in a good and fruitful direction.

To give him a way out, why can't Putin just say, "OK, we've taught them the lesson that I had warned them about and promised. We've mashed the lands and cities up real good for both Ukrainians and Russian-speaking Ukrainians alike. That's enough for now; it's getting boring, we're heading home."(?)
"Oh, and if you annoy us again, we're coming back!"
It would be difficult to justify the 100,000 ± Russian deaths for no reason. And of course they would ignore the Ukrainian deaths.....
Winemaker is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 04:48
  #15868 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Japan
Posts: 2,027
Received 161 Likes on 98 Posts
Originally Posted by Winemaker
Holy F**k!!! This is the most I have ever heard official Russkie TV admit things aren't going well. To even bring up the reality of the situation is amazing. Unfortunately, for Russia, this is some solid and honest analysis. How will Russkie persons react to this? Is this an official start to understanding the end?
True. And also interesting to note that these guys have been watching and picking up on the the finer details of Western news broadcasts, not simply sucking up Russian propaganda.
jolihokistix is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 05:38
  #15869 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 17,897
Received 1,966 Likes on 881 Posts
Spending a lot of their budget on upgrading their missile defences around Moscow.

https://www.defensenews.com/land/202...-by-years-end/

Russia to upgrade Moscow’s missile defenses by year’s end
ORAC is online now  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 06:33
  #15870 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Japan
Posts: 2,027
Received 161 Likes on 98 Posts
Exclamation

Originally Posted by ORAC
Spending a lot of their budget on upgrading their missile defences around Moscow.

https://www.defensenews.com/land/202...-by-years-end/

Russia to upgrade Moscow’s missile defenses by year’s end
The West has no reason nor desire, and never had, to attack Moscow.

(Not unless Moscow were to do something stupidly apocalyptic, i.e. end-game stupid.)

Now Ukraine might be willing to give Moscow a black eye or two, and I would not blame them one bit.

The audacious cheek of sending thousands of missiles onto the whole of Ukraine, and then complaining bitterly when even one gets fired back!
jolihokistix is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 07:46
  #15871 (permalink)  
fdr
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: 3rd Rock, #29B
Posts: 2,969
Received 889 Likes on 264 Posts
Originally Posted by Winemaker
It would be difficult to justify the 100,000 ± Russian deaths for no reason. And of course they would ignore the Ukrainian deaths.....
Adding another zero to that number won't materially change the outcome except for the additives to get the zero...

The least damage to Russia is to get rid of Putin, preferably in front of the ICJ, but out any window, not fussy. There is a single source for the loss of the oligarch value, damage to the economy of Russia (the real one, the one that is based on figures not provided by the Kremlin) the collapse of the concept of a Russian Federation, and the associated loss of the numbers in the Russian military, and the needless deaths. They pin it all on Putin, and they can work towards normalising their reputation.

They can start by paying for the breakages, and compensating for the deaths of Ukrainians.

That is still a good deal, they are looking down the barrel of revisiting the size they were in 862 A.D.

As Ukraine increases it's projection of fire, the land route to Crimea looks more and more untenable, and that must make the painters working on the Kerch bridge start to feel a bit vulnerable.

fdr is offline  
The following 3 users liked this post by fdr:
Old 30th Mar 2023, 09:11
  #15872 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Japan
Posts: 2,027
Received 161 Likes on 98 Posts
Sadly just tanks, no aviation content.
Ukraine's tank force shouldn't stand a chance against Russia's, but dumb mistakes keep tipping the scales (yahoo.com)
jolihokistix is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 09:43
  #15873 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: PLanet Earth
Posts: 1,354
Received 111 Likes on 57 Posts
Originally Posted by petit plateau
- Patriot is a very ambiguous statement. Does anyone know how to interpret that as being a quantity (understandable) or quality (mmmm....) issue.
- IRIS-T I have a vague memory of happy user videos, but could be mistaken in my memory.
Indeed it seems they were quite happy with it:
<In fact, on January 21, the Ukrainian military said that the IRIS-T successfully downed every incoming target during Ukraine’s first operational use of the system. Even Ukrainian President Zelensky has showered praise on this German system while pitching for more IRIS-Ts.> from:
https://eurasiantimes.com/ukraine-ge...-in-its-18-5b/
henra is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Old 30th Mar 2023, 10:20
  #15874 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: PLanet Earth
Posts: 1,354
Received 111 Likes on 57 Posts
Originally Posted by NutLoose
Is it me or are these lot now talking of defeat and ending it now on Russian TV?
Wow!
It is getting more and more clear that they are well aware, they're f*cked, they just have no clue how to get out of it without openly admitting defeat.
Dictatorship having painted itself deeply into a corner.
henra is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 10:37
  #15875 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,317
Received 3,157 Likes on 1,322 Posts
here is some aviation then for you..

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/this-is-li...030018349.html
NutLoose is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 10:46
  #15876 (permalink)  
fdr
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: 3rd Rock, #29B
Posts: 2,969
Received 889 Likes on 264 Posts
Originally Posted by meleagertoo
In yer dreams!
Did you realise that the Chair of the UN Security Council rotates on a monthly basis between the fifteen permanent member nations, and next month in the chair is .... Ruzzia! Fat chance of them being excluded from anythng no matter what the rulebook says, and if Putain decides to do something particularly nasty in April he'll be able to either just write it out of the agenda or simply just veto any discussion of it in the UN.
It's a pretty revolting picture.

And Russia must abstain, that is ABSTAIN, not veto, not otherwise, they MUST NOT VOTE on any matter to which they are a party. I don't make up the rules, our gutless lords and masters did, and once upon a time, they actually followed them, now, they are obsequies to the point of co-conspirator. Will they abstain, only if the UN actually grow a pair like the lady Prime Ministers of Scandinavia and the Baltics who shame the rest of the sorry bunch.

Personally, I think the dinosaurs got a rough deal, as they left the yard, expecting intelligent life to flourish on this planet per Mr C. Darwin's treatise. Not seeing much of that in evidence.
fdr is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 11:09
  #15877 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,317
Received 3,157 Likes on 1,322 Posts
He has been watching his Thriller video again.

NutLoose is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 11:18
  #15878 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,317
Received 3,157 Likes on 1,322 Posts
Starting to prepare the Russian's for the counter attack... more like worrying the sh*t out of them LOL


There thoughts on Lukashenko

NutLoose is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 11:45
  #15879 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,317
Received 3,157 Likes on 1,322 Posts
There is a new Turkey on the block..


NutLoose is offline  
Old 30th Mar 2023, 11:50
  #15880 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,103
Received 77 Likes on 46 Posts
I don't get the "drama" about Belarus nukes. Russia has nukes in Kaliningrad already, plus plenty on submarines. This is why there is no new threat quality putting them on Belarus soil.
Less Hair is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.