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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 27th Mar 2023, 09:22
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...tage-v5fgl9tjn
Russian naval vessels ‘near Nord Stream’ days before attack
This account can be partially corroborated with navigation data from the public domain, which shows some of the ships named in the report heading towards Bornholm from Kaliningrad, a militarised Russian exclave on the south coast of the Baltic Sea.
However, the tracking data cuts out at about 2pm on September 21, probably because the ships switched off their electronic identification systems.….
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Nothing brings attention faster than turning off AIS...
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 09:26
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 09:49
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Ouch..

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Old 27th Mar 2023, 09:50
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A tour round Bakhmut and an insight to what they are fighting for.

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Old 27th Mar 2023, 11:24
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Ukraine looking at mass suicide drone assaults

https://charter97.org/en/news/2023/3/27/541627/

The American magazine Forbes notes that Russian online media is buzzing with fear of an imminent attack by tens of thousands of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) on Russian troops invading Ukraine, indicating that Kyiv is allegedly preparing to change the situation on the frontline radically.

Oleksiy Arestovich spoke about the upcoming drone attack in January. He was a freelance adviser to the Office of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky until recently. And in February, the Ukrainian General Staff announced the creation of the "world's first UAV strike company".

According to the Russian Engineer Telegram channel, Ukraine bought up almost the entire market of relatively cheap FPV racing drones equipped with video cameras in China, “according to indirect estimates, 50-100 thousand units”.

These drones are smaller than standard quadcopters but are equipped with powerful engines that allow the lightweight drone to reach speeds of up to 200 km/h.

It is enough to attach a grenade to it - and the drone can be used as a radio-controlled kamikaze drone, which is able to quite accurately hit targets at a relatively large distance from the operator controlling it via video link.

Ukrainian forces carried out this tactic of improvised FPV drone attack in July, with the quadcopter diving through an open doorway into a building occupied by Russian troops before exploding.

Since then, such attacks have proliferated, according to the article. There are online videos of improvised radio-controlled kamikaze strikes at Russian tanks (the device can easily dive into an open hatch) or at trenches of Russian units that cannot be reached by direct fire from the ground.

According to Forbes, at least half of the sorties by these drones are successful. They hit the intended target despite the fact that "they are cheap and easily available compared to other guided weapons and loitering ammunition".

The publication cites calculations according to which the creation of each such handcraft kamikaze costs only a few hundred dollars, which is much cheaper than even an ordinary high-quality quadcopter, not to mention the Iranian Shaheds when Moscow pays from 20,000 to 50,000 dollars for each, according to some estimates.

Russian Engineer pounders that a raid of 50,000 drones could become an attack of unprecedented scale. Considering that racing drones are very resistant to radio interference, it will not be possible to stop them with ordinary radio jamming.

Waves of flying kamikazes can come in one after another, striking Russian positions "until all targets are destroyed." Moscow accused Ukraine of the drone explosion near Tula the day before. The explosion left a crater with a diameter of about 8 meters.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 11:41
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They never even saw it coming.


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Old 27th Mar 2023, 11:42
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I don't know if this is brave or stupid, it sounds like a popcorn machine as I take it ammo is cooking off.

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Old 27th Mar 2023, 12:32
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Hmm. The total lack of reaction to that grenade landing bext to him suggests to me it's faked. He'd have reflexively started/leaped up instead of just carrying on doing what he was doing.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 12:34
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I don't know if this is brave or stupid, it sounds like a popcorn machine as I take it ammo is cooking off.



https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1...C8kaWRt8ItAAAA
I would say that is gunfire in the vicinity, nothing to do with the tank.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 14:46
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German Leopards arrive in Ukraine

18 Leopard 2A6 arrived in Ukraine on Monday morning ( March 27th )

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._57275780.html

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Old 27th Mar 2023, 15:25
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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
Hmm. The total lack of reaction to that grenade landing bext to him suggests to me it's faked. He'd have reflexively started/leaped up instead of just carrying on doing what he was doing.
I think this is a trick of perspective; if you watch carefully the grenade explodes just as it hits, but it's tricky to follow it as the camera shot is vertical. It doesn't land then explode - the soldier never saw it.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 17:28
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There’s a lot of modern weaponry and tanks about to head in their direction. What would be your reaction? I know what I’d do
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 18:14
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Ukraine looking at mass suicide drone assaults
What on earth is a "suicide drone" ?
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 18:33
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
What on earth is a "suicide drone" ?
The term has been in use for some time now. Just a simple UAV containing explosives and intended to crash into a target. Distinguishes them from armed UAVs that can release their weapons and be reused.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 19:26
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Ukrainians training on Challenger 2 in the UK.

At 8:30 there is a short interview with a Ukrainian, who featured in a clip a while back, where he was hit in the head by a richochet off his tanks commander's turret MG.

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Old 27th Mar 2023, 22:12
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He’s in cuckoo land

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Old 27th Mar 2023, 22:27
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You would expect armour to be a bit more substantial lol.

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Old 27th Mar 2023, 23:38
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
You would expect armour to be a bit more substantial lol.

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 00:03
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It looks like the first “battle group” is forming up.

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 00:53
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U.K, US and Romania planning exercises in Moldovia with their forces, it makes a whole heap of sense.

https://kyivindependent.com/moldovan...es-with-us-uk/




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