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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 3rd Jan 2023, 09:31
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I’m shocked, I tell you, shocked….

Russian soldiers who have been injured in the war in Ukraine are finding that promised compensation money from the Russian government is not being paid due to military bureaucracy. "We are just meat with splinters for them," one soldier says. ⬇️

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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 09:48
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Originally Posted by rattman
allegedly transcipt of a post on VK
Urgent! All the company's equipment is destroyed, we're left with our bare asses. We only have the clothes on our backs. Everything the mobilized took with them is under the rubble. We need EVERYTHING!
If true, not only have they killed or wounded a very large number of the enemy, but they've rendered the survivors militarily useless and a significant burden on an already struggling support chain. What a strike!
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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 10:30
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Originally Posted by ORAC
I’m shocked, I tell you, shocked….



Russian soldiers who have been injured in the war in Ukraine are finding that promised compensation money from the Russian government is not being paid due to military bureaucracy. "We are just meat with splinters for them," one soldier says. ⬇️

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...054702592.html
Shocking but hardly surprising if it is true that banks don’t have the money to pay pensions.


(Accepted that a single report on Twitter may not reflect the general situation)

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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 10:52
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I think you missed ORAC's irony.
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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 12:57
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Originally Posted by FUMR
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I think you missed ORAC's irony.
No - I don’t think any of us can be surprised by anything the Russians do, or don’t do, any more! The only real surprise to me is that the lights are still on, and the shops reasonably well stocked in Moscow and St Petersburg.
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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 14:09
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Originally Posted by Andrewgr2
No - I don’t think any of us can be surprised by anything the Russians do, or don’t do, any more! The only real surprise to me is that the lights are still on, and the shops reasonably well stocked in Moscow and St Petersburg.
Strangely enough, that is no surprise to me. I would expect Putin to ensure that all resources are focused on showing a picture of normality in the major cities!
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Well, here's another Putin failure. From the New York Times today:
On Tuesday, the wholesale price for European natural gas, measured by the benchmark Dutch T.T.F. futures contract for February, was selling for around 76 euros a megawatt-hour. On the eve of Russia’s push into its neighbor last February, the contract sold for about €88.

This is a remarkable turnaround. Just months ago, as Russia curtailed and eventually cut off most exports of the fuel to Europe, there were intense fears that the continent would run out of gas this winter. That pushed prices to an August peak of more than €340 a megawatt-hour, about five times current levels.

Those concerns have largely faded, even though Russia used to provide about 40 percent of Europe’s consumption of gas, which is widely used to heat homes, run businesses and generate electricity. “We now have a well-supplied E.U. gas market, even without Russian gas,” said Henning Gloystein, the director for energy, climate and resources at Eurasia Group, a political risk firm. “That’s reflected in current prices,” he added.
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“War is a series of catastrophes that results in a victory.”


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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 16:12
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Circling in twitter that Ukraine hit a Russian training center in Chulakivka, Kherson oblast, resulting in 500 WIA (as stated by Ukraine MoD, link to the official statement in the link underneath).

If true, this adds to the Makiivka casualties rather significantly.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato...asualties.html
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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 16:40
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Circling in twitter that Ukraine hit a Russian training center in Chulakivka, Kherson oblast, resulting in 500 WIA (as stated by Ukraine MoD, link to the official statement in the link underneath).

If true, this adds to the Makiivka casualties rather significantly.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato...asualties.html
Russian sources indicate multiple attacks causing hundreds of kia/wia
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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 16:52
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I remember being told once that if it was at all possible to injure large numbers of the enemy then that was a better tactic than killing a few of them. I wasn't really paying attention at the time, as it wasn't long after I made the jump to become an ossifer, but it stuck in my mind as it seemed to be common sense, at least for civilised people. The resources used to care for the wounded reduce the level of resource available to the enemy to fight. Probably doesn't apply to Russia. They DSTGAS about caring for their wounded, other than wasting a round or two on changing them from 300's to 200's.
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One of the many casualties of this war.

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Russian sources indicate multiple attacks causing hundreds of kia/wia
Ukraine general staff claim to have 13 troop concentrations over the past 24-48 hours.

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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 19:09
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
One of the many casualties of this war.



https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...66570508455936
Why does shelling the City cause fish deaths? Could understand if they were dropping depth charges. Does the shockwave travel that far underwater?
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Explains a lot... Although after seeing a few RuZZian training videos I'm not quite sure if this makes any difference.


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Here is an even bigger bang, not seen it before ubx99

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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 21:09
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Originally Posted by uxb99
Why does shelling the City cause fish deaths? Could understand if they were dropping depth charges. Does the shockwave travel that far underwater?
possibly the odd round falling short or the phosphorus they have been using.
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Re-posted to make visible......
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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 21:46
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Here is an even bigger bang, not seen it before ubx99



https://twitter.com/StepanGronk/stat...51401132347392
A poster on the twitter feed says that was in Syria some time ago. Seriously impressive explosion though; the shock wave looked almost nuclear.

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