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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 20th Dec 2022, 17:30
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Originally Posted by GlobalNav
It’s high time the “people “ return the favor. If there is any nobility remaining in Russia, any unselfish courage, now is the time for the people to rise up and put the tyranny down.
I think the Bolsheviks took care of any nobility and intellect some 100 years ago
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 18:32
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Does anyone know how the number of explosions compares with normal circumstances. Judging by the way the Russians drive (dash cams) they do not seem to be the most careful of people.
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 19:35
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
Western companies pulling out of Russia means there are soon going to be serious supply issues with production of all sorts of things and this is soon going to impact the economics of the RF in a major way. Yeah, Lada can make 5,000 cars a month, but in a short while the withdrawal of western business is going to have a huge impact on the Russian economy. This, of course, is what the sanctions are meant to do but I wonder if the Russians have correctly calculated what the effect will be after two or three years, not just the two weeks they anticipated invading Ukraine. I'm impressed with the unity the west has shown during this invasion and hope it continues and tightens. I wonder when the Russian civilians will notice.....
Sanctions work in a similar way to a recession, we know we are going into one on paper well before we notice locally, usually about 9 to 12 months when things break down and can't be replaced or done in a makeshift way. Just taking away access to high end processors will do it all by itself, we are totally dependent on them today, from there it falls with a domino effect. This is going to set Russia back at least 20 years and probably take that long to recover leaving it 20 years behind the rest of the world probably for all time now. China is headed for the exact same fate.
It's sad but the world has to understand, no one country can go it alone in the modern world any more or ever again. Authoritarian regimes simply don't work and never have.
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 19:49
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Distant view of the Ukrainian helicopter loss and the wingman rescue.

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Old 20th Dec 2022, 19:52
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
Sanctions work in a similar way to a recession, we know we are going into one on paper well before we notice locally, usually about 9 to 12 months when things break down and can't be replaced or done in a makeshift way. Just taking away access to high end processors will do it all by itself, we are totally dependent on them today, from there it falls with a domino effect. This is going to set Russia back at least 20 years and probably take that long to recover leaving it 20 years behind the rest of the world probably for all time now. China is headed for the exact same fate.
It's sad but the world has to understand, no one country can go it alone in the modern world any more or ever again. Authoritarian regimes simply don't work and never have.
China does have a very tight grip on many rare-earth metals which have strategic uses in many high-tech products and it will take many years for other sources to be developed, if they can under existing laws ( environmental ).
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 20:01
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Turkey has flown out its A400 that got caught in Kyvi, at least one has spotted at its home airfeild in turkey


Two of our A400M aircraft, which went to Ukraine in order to deliver humanitarian aid and evacuate our citizens, and stayed at Borispol airport after the airspace was closed, started to arrive in Kayseri, their home base.
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 20:19
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"Video of the drone attack on the building of the regional power grids of Trubchevsk, Bryansk region, Russia"

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Old 20th Dec 2022, 21:09
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To be honest, I doubt that a single drone like that achieves anything other than being a minor nuisance. It seems rather futile.
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 21:10
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Balls of steel

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Old 20th Dec 2022, 21:20
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Zelinsky to visit washington (first time out of ukraine since invasion) Talk is there will be a big announcement, seems that patriots and Jdams are the media favorite on what is going to be announced
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 21:24
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an exemplary leader and I hope he survives and goes onto greater global diplomatic successes after this abomination is over!
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 21:37
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Could anyone imagine Putin appearing in any part of Ukraine which he claims is now Russia?
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 23:55
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an exemplary leader and I hope he survives and goes onto greater global diplomatic successes after this abomination is over!
Honestly just hope he resigns after its over, takes a holiday and becomes a statesman for the country
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 00:14
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Could anyone imagine Putin appearing in any part of Ukraine which he claims is now Russia?
I think he should visit his troops and I hope UKR has advance notice
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 00:35
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That’s not good


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Old 21st Dec 2022, 00:36
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Great photo op. "The Mekon of Mekonta visits his troops."
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 00:44
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
China does have a very tight grip on many rare-earth metals which have strategic uses in many high-tech products and it will take many years for other sources to be developed, if they can under existing laws ( environmental ).
Australia has them and plenty of it, not far from where I live actually, they are mined and processed but not in the volumes China does because those products are manufactured there. If that ends permanently then no doubt we will ramp up for the export market. An investment tip for you.
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 01:16
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
Australia has them and plenty of it, not far from where I live actually, they are mined and processed but not in the volumes China does because those products are manufactured there. If that ends permanently then no doubt we will ramp up for the export market. An investment tip for you.

Issue is not the extraction or deposits (note US is buying up a lot of the deposits in australia) its the refining. Its a very nasty and enviormentally bad process, china can just go screw it and ignore
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 04:50
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Russian military official claims that "97% of "Special Operation" participants return home alive".

Quite a bold statement.



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Old 21st Dec 2022, 05:49
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