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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:14
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This is a Rumour Network so I will post this here. No idea how true it may be or what effect it may have on Chinese influence with Russia over Ukraine but President Xi is rumoured to have been placed under house arrest in China.

Chinese President XI Jinping Under House Arrest? Sensation By Subramanian Swamy's Tweet (spotnews18.com)
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:20
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Imagine being handed one of these and told to go to the front line.
If its a rifle for training, I have used rubber rifles, hi viz yellow and red, with the same weight and a dynamics for training rather than a working rifle. But if thats what he taking to front he sorta screwed, probably be able to yoink a better one off a body in no time
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:33
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We had .303 rifles modified to look like SLR’s for drill practice.


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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:34
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Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS
This is a Rumour Network so I will post this here. No idea how true it may be or what effect it may have on Chinese influence with Russia over Ukraine but President Xi is rumoured to have been placed under house arrest in China.

Chinese President XI Jinping Under House Arrest? Sensation By Subramanian Swamy's Tweet (spotnews18.com)
Its coming from indian sources, which to me is only just higher than russian sources

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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:38
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Declaring mobilization was a risky gamble that may lead to Putin’s demise. But not because it is unpopular with the public.….

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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:48
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First timer in Ukraine.

Ukrainian forces in the South shot downed an Iranian Mohajer-6 UAV.

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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:54
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Four hours later, Sergei reported with his clean rifle and was promoted to Lieutenant.


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Old 24th Sep 2022, 12:08
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Originally Posted by rattman
If its a rifle for training, I have used rubber rifles, hi viz yellow and red, with the same weight and a dynamics for training rather than a working rifle. But if thats what he taking to front he sorta screwed, probably be able to yoink a better one off a body in no time
Where I am I was trained with the real ones, signed one upon arrival to the forces. Never heard of dummy personal weapons though. To my understanding the Russians are providing the weapons on day 1 and sending the troops to training with their personal weapons. If they only have two weeks of training they wouldn't have enough dummies nor time to practice with them. Reason is very smple: The Russian conscript system is used to push 120000 rather poorly trained (by western standards) conscripts through the system annually, now they are intendng to push 300k - 1M mobilized men through the system in mere weeks...
they've obviously opened the cold war era wartime stocks for this. Meaning old and obsolete everything that no one has taken care of, including the doctrine.
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 12:32
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Where I am I was trained with the real ones, signed one upon arrival to the forces

Dummy training rifles were issued upon request for additional volunteer PT training, you could keep them in barracks unlike real firearms. They were generically called blue guns even tho there was red options. There was steyr AUG, EF-88 and M4 commando


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Originally Posted by rattman
Dummy training rifles were issued upon request for additional volunteer PT training, you could keep them in barracks unlike real firearms. They were generically called blue guns even tho there was red options. There was steyr AUG, EF-88 and M4 commando
we kept the real ones at the barracks with us, although in locked racks while not in service to avoid Private Pyle moments. One had to know the exact location of ones personal issued weapon at all times.
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 13:26
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Putin is now in full downfall mode: the New York Times reports that the Russian dictator is directing military operations personally and has rejected repeated requests from commanders to save Russian lives by withdrawing from Kherson to the left bank of the Dnipro River

I'd hate to be a Russian mobilized troop. Not many of them will return home alive.


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Old 24th Sep 2022, 13:49
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Originally Posted by rattman
Its coming from indian sources, which to me is only just higher than russian sources
Hearing stories from a few friends (one is married to a Chinese) and whispers coming from their families out there in messages that there's lots of military activity in and around Bejing, so......there could be some legs in this story?

There's stories of 6000 flights being suddenly cancelled in China too, plus rail journey suspensions.




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Old 24th Sep 2022, 13:54
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The videos and tweets of the Russian Police and the Enlistment Commissars forcing men into trucks and buses is reminiscent of the rounding up of undesirables in the late 30s and early 40s around Europe.
History will judge these weak willed individuals as co-conspirators in the deaths of tens of thousands of their countrymen, there will be no defence of "I was just following orders," as the guards used at Belsen, Auschwitz and Treblinka.

Many of these men will be massacred before they get anywhere near the front line.
While I do not feel remorse for them, I feel like I am watching a deeply disturbing part of history in the making that I had hoped Europe had moved away from.
Will future generations look at the posts on these pages and wonder if we too have become desensitised to yet again death on an industrial scale?
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While I do not feel remorse for them, I feel like I am watching a deeply disturbing part of history in the making that I had hoped Europe had moved away from.
I think we had all hoped that, but sadly it only needs one deranged and corrupt megalomanic to reverse all the progress made since WW2. Sadly, post-Soviet dogma persists, preventing Russia taking a proper place in the community of Nations. And the same applies to China, of course.
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The start of the disintegration of the Russian Federation?

Kadyrov now has sizeable forces loyal only to him - as recently shown - and what has Putin left to suppress any uprisings or cecessions?

And in Chechnya, and elsewhere, memories run deep.

As recently stated Russia’s entire southern flank is now afire.

Bring popcorn….

Ramzan Kadyrov just refusing to launch the mobilization in Chechnya …
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 14:40
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GeeRam, Flight Radar24 is showing normal flights over China at 21.37 Beijing time. A bit slow for a Saturday but not down by 6,000.

No further inferences
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This lot have been standing about to long… go get them boys and girls.

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I have a theory about the mobilisation, but I hope I am wrong.

During WW2 Russia used to calculate German firepower and times that by the time to cross the ground then throw in that number of troops plus more, so no matter what was fired at them they could not kill them all. That probably is the fate they await, advance at all costs.
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