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Germany sending 2 700 Strela missiles from DDR stocks to Ukraine.
This is very strange. I didn't think Germany had the same mentality as Russia about holding on to old weaponry and would also have thought they would be time-limited in some way, as i can't believe that the BRD would have ordered any updates from Russia;
https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._59208600.html
Germany sending 2 700 Strela missiles from DDR stocks to Ukraine.
This is very strange. I didn't think Germany had the same mentality as Russia about holding on to old weaponry and would also have thought they would be time-limited in some way, as i can't believe that the BRD would have ordered any updates from Russia;
https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._59208600.html
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"Putin tells Macron Russian military operation 'will be completed'
In their phone call Thursday, President Putin told French counterpart Emmanuel Macron that the tasks of Russia's special military operation in Ukraine would be fulfilled in any case, and urged him to join efforts to ensure the safe evacuation of foreign citizens from Ukraine.
Putin explained that it was about demilitarization and the neutral status of Ukraine, so that a threat to Russia would never come from its territory, and that attempts to gain time by delaying negotiations would only lead to the emergence of new demands on Kiev."
It looks like no one told Vlad that the invasion is not going on schedule, and that the cost of fulfilling those tasks is rapidly rising.
A French ex-military analyst told "Le Monde" today, that, according to him, the Russian army has engaged 2/3rd of its actual combat capacity in Ukraine, and in the long term, there is no way it can escape a costly and persistent guerilla war. All those lost capacities will have to be rebuild, and Russia is not exactly getting richer...
In their phone call Thursday, President Putin told French counterpart Emmanuel Macron that the tasks of Russia's special military operation in Ukraine would be fulfilled in any case, and urged him to join efforts to ensure the safe evacuation of foreign citizens from Ukraine.
Putin explained that it was about demilitarization and the neutral status of Ukraine, so that a threat to Russia would never come from its territory, and that attempts to gain time by delaying negotiations would only lead to the emergence of new demands on Kiev."
It looks like no one told Vlad that the invasion is not going on schedule, and that the cost of fulfilling those tasks is rapidly rising.
A French ex-military analyst told "Le Monde" today, that, according to him, the Russian army has engaged 2/3rd of its actual combat capacity in Ukraine, and in the long term, there is no way it can escape a costly and persistent guerilla war. All those lost capacities will have to be rebuild, and Russia is not exactly getting richer...
A French ex-military analyst told "Le Monde" today, that, according to him, the Russian army has engaged 2/3rd of its actual combat capacity in Ukraine, and in the long term, there is no way it can escape a costly and persistent guerilla war. All those lost capacities will have to be rebuild, and Russia is not exactly getting richer...
Therefore Putin will have to leave 50.000++ Troops permanently in Country. And those will keep getting decimated by Ambushes, IED, and all those weaponry (Stingers, Javelins, NLAW, etc) happily floating around. Every now end then an IL-76 will take a fatal plunge on approach or takeoff when replacing troops. Ground troop transports will be ambushed and eliminated across the Country. Ukraine is a huuuge Country (2,5x UK, 4.5x England). 50.000 troops will mean a veeeery thin occupation. Reenforcement will be hours away.
I really have difficulties to understand what Putin's plan for day X + 100 is!?
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They are losing some serious high rankers
Top Russian general 'killed fighting in Ukraine in major blow for invaders' (msn.com)
Andrei Sukhovetsky, deputy commander of the 41st Combined Arms Army of the Central Military District, died yesterday, Ukrainian news outlets report.
They referred to a post on Russian social media platform VKontakte written by Sergei Chipilev, a deputy of the Russian veterans group, Combat Brotherhood.
It said: ‘It is with great sorrow that we learned of the tragic news about the death of our friend, Major General Andrei Aleksandrovich Sukhovetsky, on the territory of Ukraine during a special operation.’
They referred to a post on Russian social media platform VKontakte written by Sergei Chipilev, a deputy of the Russian veterans group, Combat Brotherhood.
It said: ‘It is with great sorrow that we learned of the tragic news about the death of our friend, Major General Andrei Aleksandrovich Sukhovetsky, on the territory of Ukraine during a special operation.’
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Or failed to take the objectives? so was "replaced" with some who now knows the price of failure.
"A military source confirmed that he was killed 'by a sniper', and suggested a funeral for the Major General - by far the most senior Russian figure to have died in the conflict thus far - will be held in Russia on Saturday."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oops-died.html
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On reflection, " a sniper" does , of course, leave all options open.
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That's what really puzzles me. What is the plan after a possible initial military win? Those people now fighting for their Country won't suddenly disappear or become happy Janukovich Supporters. They are right now impressively dealing with one of the biggest Ground- Forces Army of the world. How should an unwelcome socket puppet government survive once the majority of the current Russian forces have left the Country again?
Therefore Putin will have to leave 50.000++ Troops permanently in Country. And those will keep getting decimated by Ambushes, IED, and all those weaponry (Stingers, Javelins, NLAW, etc) happily floating around. Every now end then an IL-76 will take a fatal plunge on approach or takeoff when replacing troops. Ground troop transports will be ambushed and eliminated across the Country. Ukraine is a huuuge Country (2,5x UK, 4.5x England). 50.000 troops will mean a veeeery thin occupation. Reenforcement will be hours away.
I really have difficulties to understand what Putin's plan for day X + 100 is!?
Therefore Putin will have to leave 50.000++ Troops permanently in Country. And those will keep getting decimated by Ambushes, IED, and all those weaponry (Stingers, Javelins, NLAW, etc) happily floating around. Every now end then an IL-76 will take a fatal plunge on approach or takeoff when replacing troops. Ground troop transports will be ambushed and eliminated across the Country. Ukraine is a huuuge Country (2,5x UK, 4.5x England). 50.000 troops will mean a veeeery thin occupation. Reenforcement will be hours away.
I really have difficulties to understand what Putin's plan for day X + 100 is!?
"A military source confirmed that he was killed 'by a sniper', and suggested a funeral for the Major General - by far the most senior Russian figure to have died in the conflict thus far - will be held in Russia on Saturday."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oops-died.html
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On reflection, " a sniper" does , of course, leave all options open.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oops-died.html
edit:
On reflection, " a sniper" does , of course, leave all options open.
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Unlikely if there's anything to this blog post from Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...content=header
Could be......
These allegations have not been verified, and could be false.
A false flag operation is an attack that aims to disguise the real source of the aggression in the hopes that your opponent is blamed.
Popovka, a rural community, is close to Russia's border with Ukraine.
Source - Sky News live updates (time stamped at 12:51)
Ukraine's foreign minister claims Russia could be about to attack itself in 'false flag' operation
Dmytro Kuleba, Ukraine's foreign minister, says there are reports that Russia could be preparing to carry out a false flag operation by attacking their own territory to blame Ukraine.These allegations have not been verified, and could be false.
A false flag operation is an attack that aims to disguise the real source of the aggression in the hopes that your opponent is blamed.
Popovka, a rural community, is close to Russia's border with Ukraine.
Source - Sky News live updates (time stamped at 12:51)
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From RAFEngO74to09 link
I take it they are trying to put the fear of God into the populace in the hope it will quell any guerilla warfare and crush the resistance................... how did that work out for old Adolf in France?
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NEW: Russia's intelligence agency, the Federal Security Service, has drafted plans for public executions in #Ukraine after cities are captured, per a European intelligence official
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