Is Ukraine about to have a war?
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On another note, maybe Ukraine should've kept their nuclear weapons after the fall of the Soviet Union....
And another note, things like this does not really help when we want to talk Iran and North Korea into dropping their nuclear programmes..... on the contrary....
Maybe it's time to just accept that there are countries out there that will have nuclear weapons, and that's from the fear of being attacked rather than attack, cause we're showing again and again that smaller countries will get a kick to the face if a bigger neighbour will it.
And another note, things like this does not really help when we want to talk Iran and North Korea into dropping their nuclear programmes..... on the contrary....
Maybe it's time to just accept that there are countries out there that will have nuclear weapons, and that's from the fear of being attacked rather than attack, cause we're showing again and again that smaller countries will get a kick to the face if a bigger neighbour will it.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Juppie902,
The Budapest agreement was signed by the UK and USA and - to a lesser degree - France, but not NATO.
It provides security assurances, such as going to the UNSC if their territorial integrity is threatened, but it does not impose any a legal obligations of military assistance - and hasn’t proved of any great value so far.
The Baltic states joined NATO and have allied tripwire forces based on their territory, yet still are considered vulnerable. Ukraine? Don’t hold your breath....
The Budapest agreement was signed by the UK and USA and - to a lesser degree - France, but not NATO.
It provides security assurances, such as going to the UNSC if their territorial integrity is threatened, but it does not impose any a legal obligations of military assistance - and hasn’t proved of any great value so far.
The Baltic states joined NATO and have allied tripwire forces based on their territory, yet still are considered vulnerable. Ukraine? Don’t hold your breath....
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It provides security assurances, such as going to the UNSC if their territorial integrity is threatened...
https://youtu.be/qPJDPSUevt4
https://youtu.be/qPJDPSUevt4
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/1...ilitary-518337
Satellite images show new Russian military buildup near Ukraine
Satellite images show new Russian military buildup near Ukraine
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Stirring things up on all fronts - on which, any, or many will Putin move? Or will someone overreact and spark a war?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-conflict.html
East and West go toe-to-toe: Russian paratroopers are deployed to Belarus close to Poland border as 'Britain sends soldiers to strengthen Polish defences' after White House warned Putin could invade Ukraine 'imminently'
https://www.politico.eu/article/pola...eaders-europe/
European defense leaders warn: Belarus migrant crisis could morph into military crisis
https://news.sky.com/story/bosnia-uk...r-war-12464820
Bosnia: UK minister says Russia's hand 'at play' in brewing crisis experts fear could lead to another war
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-conflict.html
East and West go toe-to-toe: Russian paratroopers are deployed to Belarus close to Poland border as 'Britain sends soldiers to strengthen Polish defences' after White House warned Putin could invade Ukraine 'imminently'
https://www.politico.eu/article/pola...eaders-europe/
European defense leaders warn: Belarus migrant crisis could morph into military crisis
https://news.sky.com/story/bosnia-uk...r-war-12464820
Bosnia: UK minister says Russia's hand 'at play' in brewing crisis experts fear could lead to another war
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Norways undersea cables cut.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...steriously-cut
Undersea sensors off the coast of northern Norway that are able to collect data about passing submarines, among other things, have been knocked out, the country’s state-operated Institute of Marine Research, or IMR, has revealed. The cause of the damage is unknown, but the cables linking the sensor nodes to control stations ashore are said to have been cut and then disappeared. This has raised suspicions about deliberate sabotage, possibly carried out by the Russian government, which definitely has the means to do so.
The IMR, one of the biggest marine research institutes in Europe, described “extensive damage” to the outer areas of the Lofoten-Vesterĺlen (LoVe) Ocean Observatory, putting the system offline. LoVe, which was only declared fully operational in August 2020, consists of a network of underwater cables and sensors located on the Norwegian Continental Shelf, an area of strategic interest for both Norway and Russia.
The IMR, one of the biggest marine research institutes in Europe, described “extensive damage” to the outer areas of the Lofoten-Vesterĺlen (LoVe) Ocean Observatory, putting the system offline. LoVe, which was only declared fully operational in August 2020, consists of a network of underwater cables and sensors located on the Norwegian Continental Shelf, an area of strategic interest for both Norway and Russia.
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https://www.politico.eu/article/brit...der-migration/
So an Officer and SNCO in charge, that leaves eight bods, of that two normally stand watching, one will be elsewhere, so that’s four putting up fencing…
Belarus Poland border length 250 miles, they’re going to be busy.
10 British troops deployed to support Poland on Belarus border
The troops will repair or fortify fencing rather than help police the border.Belarus Poland border length 250 miles, they’re going to be busy.
https://www.politico.eu/article/brit...der-migration/
So an Officer and SNCO in charge, that leaves eight bods, of that two normally stand watching, one will be elsewhere, so that’s four putting up fencing…
Belarus Poland border length 250 miles, they’re going to be busy.
So an Officer and SNCO in charge, that leaves eight bods, of that two normally stand watching, one will be elsewhere, so that’s four putting up fencing…
Belarus Poland border length 250 miles, they’re going to be busy.
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Humour obviously isn’t your strong point, the cutting of the undersea detection cables is the frightening post, it allows Russian subs the possibility of slipping past early detection, and as far as I know it’s not been done before which seriously ramps up the tension..
maybe I’m getting old but do dickheads like Putin not realise that spending their remaining life trapped in an underground box eating the same crap day in day out without seeing the sun nor feeling the wind and rain on their faces surrounded be a few people that could rapidly become annoying is no life at all.
Topped off by knowing if they ever could come back above ground there would be **** all left, all the power, wealth and riches that come from that in the world means nothing if you cannot enjoy them, and that goes for both sides.
maybe I’m getting old but do dickheads like Putin not realise that spending their remaining life trapped in an underground box eating the same crap day in day out without seeing the sun nor feeling the wind and rain on their faces surrounded be a few people that could rapidly become annoying is no life at all.
Topped off by knowing if they ever could come back above ground there would be **** all left, all the power, wealth and riches that come from that in the world means nothing if you cannot enjoy them, and that goes for both sides.
An RAF RC-135 has been intercepted by Russian aircraft off Crimea.
At least that would indicate someone is listening to what the Russians are up to.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...d-mid-25435015
At least that would indicate someone is listening to what the Russians are up to.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...d-mid-25435015
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...us-crisis.html
British special forces are put on alert to be deployed to Ukraine as size of Red Army on border swells to 100,000 troops and Russian Navy tracks US warships in the Black Sea
British special forces are put on alert to be deployed to Ukraine as size of Red Army on border swells to 100,000 troops and Russian Navy tracks US warships in the Black Sea
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Reminds me of the false flag operation whilst started the invasion of Poland at the start of WWII…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-reach-EU.html
EXCLUSIVE: Poland is braced for major attack by 'weaponised' migrants from Belarus TONIGHT
Poland is braced for a major assault by migrants on its frontier with Belarus tonight after receiving intelligence of a huge build up of enemy troops.
Polish Border Force guards claim their Belarusian counterparts are issuing the thousands of stranded migrants with instructions, equipment and weapons to force their way into the EU.
The attack is believed to be planned for frontier at Kuznica, one of two main crossing points from Poland to Belarus……
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...er-2021-11-14/
Putin offers help to resolve crisis at Belarus and EU border
MOSCOW, Nov 14 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia was ready to help resolve a migrant crisis on the border between Belarus and Poland, RIA news agency reported on Sunday citing an interview on a state TV channel.
"We are ready to help it by all means if of course anything would depend on us," Putin was quoted as saying…..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-reach-EU.html
EXCLUSIVE: Poland is braced for major attack by 'weaponised' migrants from Belarus TONIGHT
Poland is braced for a major assault by migrants on its frontier with Belarus tonight after receiving intelligence of a huge build up of enemy troops.
Polish Border Force guards claim their Belarusian counterparts are issuing the thousands of stranded migrants with instructions, equipment and weapons to force their way into the EU.
The attack is believed to be planned for frontier at Kuznica, one of two main crossing points from Poland to Belarus……
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...er-2021-11-14/
Putin offers help to resolve crisis at Belarus and EU border
MOSCOW, Nov 14 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia was ready to help resolve a migrant crisis on the border between Belarus and Poland, RIA news agency reported on Sunday citing an interview on a state TV channel.
"We are ready to help it by all means if of course anything would depend on us," Putin was quoted as saying…..
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it’s almost like Cuba and one feels it’s all down to Putin with the crackpot in Belarus. The difference this time is I can see it escalating rapidly as the west weakened by defence cuts needs to show they will use everything at their disposal, whoever is advising Putin needs to be shoved up against a wall..
the stupid fact in all of this is Russia has grown fat on selling energy to the west, something I think will be reversed in the future as we all withdraw from buying their gas etc.
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the stupid fact in all of this is Russia has grown fat on selling energy to the west, something I think will be reversed in the future as we all withdraw from buying their gas etc.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
That worked soooo well in 1938/39….
However, I feel it’s more like 1914, where no one expected a war and afterwards spent decades trying to work out the complex reasons it happened..
However, I feel it’s more like 1914, where no one expected a war and afterwards spent decades trying to work out the complex reasons it happened..
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