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Using Rank on Retirement

Old 27th Mar 2021, 09:23
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Suspect he and his Mrs didn't make any effort to make friends at their London address - and that's where someone got narked. Probably someone who was obeying the rules at some pain
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 10:36
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According to The Times this morning [sorry, not an on-line subscriber] there's a bit more flesh on the bones ...
  • He claimed he couldn't afford the school fees.
  • They spent most of their time at their Dorset home.
  • He "deliberately manipulated the numbers" to mislead military police about how much time his wife spent in London.
  • She claimed the colonel neighbour who reported them was "daunted" by her husband's rank.
  • The JAG said "You ignored multiple warnings ..."
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 10:49
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Is it the case that people with the most (and there won't be many soldiers earning more than a 2 star with London allowances) always want to grab some more? Or does it just seem that way?

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Old 27th Mar 2021, 10:52
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If he loses all rank, will his children still receive a "private" education?
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 15:51
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Love the character reference from a fellow General: "A man of unimpeachable integrity"........
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 16:50
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The fellow general being a man of unimpeachable judgement. Obvs!

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Old 27th Mar 2021, 19:04
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I had to laugh at the wife’s comment of “daunted at her husbands rank”....more like just pissed off at them abusing the rules while others had to follow them.
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 19:55
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21 months inside pour encourager les autres.
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 20:00
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May be the Colonel who `grassed` him will probaly get a move.....sideways,to distant parts.....
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 22:16
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Notwithstanding the idiot's fraudulent brat-breeding claim, you have to feel sorry for the children.

Quite how they'll cope with friends knowing that Daddy is playing b*tch to Big Ron of E wing is going to be rather difficult for them, I would imagine...
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 22:47
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Originally Posted by sycamore
May be the Colonel who `grassed` him will probaly get a move.....sideways,to distant parts.....
why should he? He's done nothing wrong apart from making authorities aware of criminal behaviour
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 23:26
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Originally Posted by BEagle
Notwithstanding the idiot's fraudulent brat-breeding claim, you have to feel sorry for the children.

Quite how they'll cope with friends knowing that Daddy is playing b*tch to Big Ron of E wing is going to be rather difficult for them, I would imagine...
Come on, this is getting nasty. We don't need the details, the fact is bad enough. There are no winners, and sniggering or gloating is not becoming.
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 08:22
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Actually Beags. although enduring a miserable episode psychologically,I doubt very much if he will living a "Porridge" like existence. In all probability ,after a short assessment, my guess would be that he would be suitably categorised as low risk and be transferred to an open prison , with trips allowed from time to time locally and weekend releases back home. He will also broaden his horizons socially I expect.. A bit like being back in his early days in the Army perhaps?.
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 08:26
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he's already lost the job he took after leaving the Army 2 years ago... I'm sure he will do OK - he;s not an idiot but just someone else trapped by his sense of entitlement.

We all need to stop sometimes and ask ourselves "what does this look like to outsiders?"
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 10:01
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The current Mrs O-D was a sqn ldr doing P1 and P2 (legal and personnel) during her last tour in the mob.

In a conversation about things which were not always clear cut, she opined that she used to ask herself a question which panned out as: "at the subsequent Board of Enquiry", to decide how to deal with uncertainties.

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Old 28th Mar 2021, 13:02
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In a conversation about things which were not always clear cut, she opined that she used to ask herself a question which panned out as: "at the subsequent Board of Enquiry", to decide how to deal with uncertainties.
A similar technique I found very useful for airborne decisions too - how would the ensuing events sound to someone reading the accident report in a crew room? It managed to filter some of my more dubious plans!
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 13:31
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I once had a boss who asked an Irish lawyer how he could avoid doing anything illegal -

the answer was "imagine you're standing there and Counsel turns to you and says" Now Mr A, would you like to explain to the jury...." - if you think you'll be happy at that point you're probably OK!"
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 13:32
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And, at admin level, "the purpose of this instruction is ........"

Thus, middle ranking officers can look at the letter of the instruction, decide that it fails to fit the case in front of them, and seek to fulfil the purpose.
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 08:56
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Often thought I was one of the (very) few people using BSA (as was) correctly; indeed it was for "continuity of education".

Senior Daughter and Son-and-Heir were at the local State School, she about to start her sixth form, he about to embark on his pre-GCSE two years.

Fortunately (and unusually in the State sector), the School had a Boarding House, so when Norn Iron beckoned yet again, they could stay where they were (continuity of education - geddit?) - with a little help from BSA - for the 2 years Self, Milady Teeters and Junior Daughter were off to EGAA - again.
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 16:10
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Now he has been jailed and although he had already left the Army, does he now forfeit his pension or can that only be removed while he is serving? and if it is forfeit, does he now have to payback those pension payments he may have received?
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