USAF Badges purge
"So that's alright then is it? Because it was done in the past we should not criticise?"
"Trying to apply the social standards of today to yesterday is ludicrous." You don't understand this point? By all means apply today's standards to today's art.
"How you can compare nose art of bombs or whatever to the naked female form is beyond me." I'll take a stab here. Because the nose art on whatever is often, not always, a female. And I have yet to see a "naked female form" displayed. They may have minuscule clothing but I have, you may have, not seen a totally naked female body as aircraft art.
As for 'hurt'? No, just sick and tired of idiots like you and your ilk with your overt sexism.
My dear chap, disagree with me by all means but do please display some modern societal standards and modicum of manners by addressing the opinion and not abusing the individual.
"Trying to apply the social standards of today to yesterday is ludicrous." You don't understand this point? By all means apply today's standards to today's art.
"How you can compare nose art of bombs or whatever to the naked female form is beyond me." I'll take a stab here. Because the nose art on whatever is often, not always, a female. And I have yet to see a "naked female form" displayed. They may have minuscule clothing but I have, you may have, not seen a totally naked female body as aircraft art.
As for 'hurt'? No, just sick and tired of idiots like you and your ilk with your overt sexism.
My dear chap, disagree with me by all means but do please display some modern societal standards and modicum of manners by addressing the opinion and not abusing the individual.
Oh and I am not your 'Dear Chap', kindly do not refer to me as such.
REPEATEDLY I have seen naked, or near naked renditions of females, as so called 'nose art'.
Guess what, 'CHAP', as a female RAF pilot I bloody resent that ****e.
Last edited by ExAscoteer2; 6th Jan 2021 at 23:01.
To be honest, most of the so-called 'nose art' on RAF aircraft during Gulf War One hardly merited the term 'art'. Irrespective of the subject material, in general the drawings were pretty crude in nature.
The few USAF aircraft I saw with 'nose art' were of a much higher quality.
The few USAF aircraft I saw with 'nose art' were of a much higher quality.
You have never seen an overtly female nose art or scantily dressed female nose art? Oh DO **** off you HYPOCRITE!
Do you actually read the post and take the time to decipher it before before you volatile temper takes over." And I have yet to see a "naked female form" displayed. They may have minuscule clothing but I have, you may have, not seen a totally naked female body as aircraft art." I don't see where it states I have not seen female nose art. I do state I have not seen female NAKED as in no clothes what so ever with all shown. If you think a bum or bit of fleshy pec is naked that's you ignorant right.
Oh and I am not your 'Dear Chap', kindly do not refer to me as such. Guess what you strive for equality? You call me an idiot and a hypocrite my dear chapette but obviously get your nose really out with chap, really.
I have endeavored to keep the discussion on opinions and not personal attacks. Your outrage would be far better presented as a logical argument. You do yourself a serious disservice which does not reflect well on my sisters in uniform.
Do you actually read the post and take the time to decipher it before before you volatile temper takes over." And I have yet to see a "naked female form" displayed. They may have minuscule clothing but I have, you may have, not seen a totally naked female body as aircraft art." I don't see where it states I have not seen female nose art. I do state I have not seen female NAKED as in no clothes what so ever with all shown. If you think a bum or bit of fleshy pec is naked that's you ignorant right.
Oh and I am not your 'Dear Chap', kindly do not refer to me as such. Guess what you strive for equality? You call me an idiot and a hypocrite my dear chapette but obviously get your nose really out with chap, really.
I have endeavored to keep the discussion on opinions and not personal attacks. Your outrage would be far better presented as a logical argument. You do yourself a serious disservice which does not reflect well on my sisters in uniform.
Chief Bottle Washer
ExAscoteer2 given some time to relax and come back when ready to refrain from personal attacks.
I think anyone who says “female pilots in the ATA don’t count as real RAF pilots” isn’t actually the female RAF pilot they claim to be.
An RAF pilot would have more class than to look down their nose at wartime ATA pilots
An RAF pilot would have more class than to look down their nose at wartime ATA pilots
You have never seen an overtly female nose art or scantily dressed female nose art? Oh DO **** off you HYPOCRITE!
Oh and I am not your 'Dear Chap', kindly do not refer to me as such.
REPEATEDLY I have seen naked, or near naked renditions of females, as so called 'nose art'.
Guess what, 'CHAP', as a female RAF pilot I bloody resent that ****e.
Oh and I am not your 'Dear Chap', kindly do not refer to me as such.
REPEATEDLY I have seen naked, or near naked renditions of females, as so called 'nose art'.
Guess what, 'CHAP', as a female RAF pilot I bloody resent that ****e.
I like it , you don’t ! Get over it . Btw you seem to have an anger management issue ? I trust you don’t fly anything too complicated .
The era of unearned white male privilege is over. Part of that means that symbols that overtly disrespects a segment of the serving uniformed members are no longer acceptable.
A lawful order has been given signed by the most senior members of the USAF.
Don’t like it ? Moan and drip on social media, fine it is your right under the first amendment, but if you are serving then support the chain of command or resign, simples....
A lawful order has been given signed by the most senior members of the USAF.
Don’t like it ? Moan and drip on social media, fine it is your right under the first amendment, but if you are serving then support the chain of command or resign, simples....
Last edited by Big Pistons Forever; 7th Jan 2021 at 03:47.
Support the chain of command
A wonderful day to suggest that hypothesis when the commander in chief appears to be attempting to overthrow democracy and is banned from social media.
So that's alright then is it? Because it was done in the past we should not criticise?
How you can compare nose art of bombs or whatever to the naked female form is beyond me.
As for 'hurt'? No, just sick and tired of idiots like you and your ilk with your overt sexism.
How you can compare nose art of bombs or whatever to the naked female form is beyond me.
As for 'hurt'? No, just sick and tired of idiots like you and your ilk with your overt sexism.
Agreed. I think that poster needs to take a long look in the mirror.
The era of unearned white male privilege is over. Part of that means that symbols that overtly disrespects a segment of the serving uniformed members are no longer acceptable.
A lawful order has been given signed by the most senior members of the USAF.
Don’t like it ? Moan and drip on social media, fine it is your right under the first amendment, but if you are serving then support the chain of command or resign, simples....
A lawful order has been given signed by the most senior members of the USAF.
Don’t like it ? Moan and drip on social media, fine it is your right under the first amendment, but if you are serving then support the chain of command or resign, simples....
There is a TIALD pod at Duxford with one of these ladies on. Its much smaller of course.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The original letter refers not to aircraft insignia but badges, patches, mottoes, nicknames, coins and other forms of unit recognition (stickers?)
Some of the more crude nicknames, and name patches, have been mentioned on other threads - most which stick with people for their entire career, if not life. Not sure how to manage changing those.
We once had an USAF exchange officer who tried to persuade us to introduce a unit coin (the ones you have to produce on demand or pay a forfeit such as buy a round) - which met with much ridicule and apathy....
Some of the more crude nicknames, and name patches, have been mentioned on other threads - most which stick with people for their entire career, if not life. Not sure how to manage changing those.
We once had an USAF exchange officer who tried to persuade us to introduce a unit coin (the ones you have to produce on demand or pay a forfeit such as buy a round) - which met with much ridicule and apathy....
Early 70’s I recall seeing a KC-135 tanker with the forward fuselage painted to look like a giant can of Coors.
Had never heard of Coors beforehand.
Now who could take offence at that?
Anyone got a picture?
Had never heard of Coors beforehand.
Now who could take offence at that?
Anyone got a picture?