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Falkland Islands Cleared of Landmines

Old 12th Nov 2020, 20:22
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Originally Posted by Ant T
The Argentine government has criticized the successful eleven-year demining process in the Falkland Islands arguing it is a new “violation” of a UN resolution calling on both sides, UK and Argentina, to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories.”

So now they are complaining about their mines being removed !

https://en.mercopress.com/2020/11/12...tarian-success
Well they can immediately solve that dispute can't they - Cough up for half the cost and then it will no longer be unilateral will it! Simples!
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Old 12th Nov 2020, 20:55
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According to this article from 2017,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39821956
there were fears that clearing the beaches would severely disrupt the penguins which had thrived there due to the lack of human disturbance, and destroy the dunes ecosystem. Any further news on this aspect?
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Old 12th Nov 2020, 21:21
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Originally Posted by toolboxstickers
According to this article from 2017,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39821956
there were fears that clearing the beaches would severely disrupt the penguins which had thrived there due to the lack of human disturbance, and destroy the dunes ecosystem. Any further news on this aspect?
Penguins seem to co-exist OK in the many places where tourists visit in huge numbers each (normal, non covid) summer, and most people behave sensibly around the wildlife, but one positive bit of news specific to the beaches that have just been cleared of mines - legislation was passed a couple of days ago to ban all off-road driving on those beaches. About 85% of people locally were in support of the legislation.
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Old 12th Nov 2020, 21:30
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Second day of the peace in 1982, I was tasked into Goose Green. On departure, we experienced a gearbox chip warning so I rejected ahead in a field just beyond a fence. A voice on the fm advised that we had landed in a minefield. A quick crew vote decided we should leave immediately so I pulled pitch and away we went without incident. Might have been another story.
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 07:43
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Here's a photo of the brave lads that did it............


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Old 13th Nov 2020, 09:05
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Here's a photo of the brave lads that did it............

All we need now is a picture of the sheep who also contributed quite a bit!
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 10:41
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Thumbs up

I hope they had a good stay at Lookout Camp
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 13:14
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I saw some of them changing out a year or so back - they looked bloody cold!
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 16:24
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Hi, just a quick question.

I have read somewhere that a number of landmines in the islands were installed during WW1 and WW2. It is that true? Of course, I am aware most (or all?) mines were from the 1982 war.

Regards to all!
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 09:59
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Well done to all and let's hope the world keeps moving in that direction and ends the use of landmines
hmmm. It is only the presence of 2 million mines in the DMZ keeping NK out of SK. So mines do have a use in the modern world.

As for the FI. We should have kept them in place as a deterrent against a future Argentine invasion whose lack of record keeping may have made them think twice!
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 12:05
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Genuine question.

How do they know it's really clear?

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Old 14th Nov 2020, 12:22
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Is there a pool on when the next sheep will be blown up?
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 14:49
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Yes indeed, all praise to the minelifters! Many years back, my roadman pal Sammy Deane was involved in the Stanley runway resurfacing contract and on his day off he went with a friend to see the penguins. They were warned not to disturb them and were quite happy to watch them from a distance. What he didn't expect was that the penguins were just as keen to see him. Sammy was well over 6ft and they came up almost to his shoulder, as we saw from a picture showing him surrounded by 30 friendly birds who seemed to think he was one of them.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 14:56
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Originally Posted by Training Risky
hmmm. It is only the presence of 2 million mines in the DMZ keeping NK out of SK. So mines do have a use in the modern world.

As for the FI. We should have kept them in place as a deterrent against a future Argentine invasion whose lack of record keeping may have made them think twice!
Record keeping wouldn't have made a tangible difference for many of the minefields.

Peat moves. A lot. There's no guarantee a mine placed would be in the same place in 6 months, never mind 40 years. This is exactly why they put them there.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 00:19
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Mine clearance

As an aside to the Falklands demining it is still going on around the El Alamein battlefield.
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As an aside to the Falklands demining it is still going on around the El Alamein battlefield.
I had a good friend (now flying circuits in the clouds) who carried out a survey for HMG of part of the Alamein battlefield with a view to clearing it of mines. Apparently the Germans and Italians had tried to clear part of the battlefield but lost too many guys so gave up. My pals recommendation was leave it to decay for another fifty or so years before doing anything. Apparently the main problem was that each side had laid mines and in some cases there were mines laid on top of mines which in turn were sitting on other mines many of which were booby-trapped.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 15:23
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well they're still collecting bits from WW1 that go bang occasionally so it s a long wait
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 21:25
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Back in '90 the Royal Engineers modified an EOD Wheelbarrow to clear the FI minefields; the FI airforce EOD element was invited to a demonstration of the prototype; if memory serves it was called Redfire. The wheelbarrow was modified to carry a gas bottle with a hose leading to a burner nozzle attached to a multi-pronged fork on the extendable boom. A 'suitable' mine was selected and the 'barrow set off to scoop up the mine and burn it out. All well and good but someone had not done a very good recce. The Mk8 Wheelbarrow is quite a heavy machine, heavy enough to trigger an unseen mine which resulted in the 'barrow going airborne a good 20ft. To add insult to injury the boom was one of the new square types, a great improvement on the round one and hard to obtain. As a coincidence the sapper operating the machine had been my No2 on the IED course; he knew his stuff and got me out of trouble a few times.
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Old 23rd Nov 2020, 13:59
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May 1990. Near Bertha's beach. Mine clearing party on right. (but I believe Penguins were too light to set them off)



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