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Considering they were in an emergency descent one would think the fwd exit was the last place you wanted to be stepping out of. Thanks for extending my knowledge of the Herc
Like all `news`items ,it`s a bit like `Send 3 and 4 pence,we`re going to a dance`.....none of the Marine Corps statements mention that any of the Herk crew jumped at all.....
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I don't think the crew door is designed to be jettisoned in flight. It is designed for use on the ground if the fuselage is distorted and it can't be opened normally. It is impossible to believe that if it were jettisoned in flight it would miss No 2 prop. This is why the Crew Door light on the classic C130 or the Crew Door Warning on the C130J is treated so seriously.
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Screaming holy **** I had a midair would also get everyone’s attention.
Feel free to dissect what many of the pedants here believe is a systemic training issue of declaring emergency vs mayday/pan, however on that day, the phraseology that was most common to both the flight crew and the controller was “declaring an emergency”
Feel free to dissect what many of the pedants here believe is a systemic training issue of declaring emergency vs mayday/pan, however on that day, the phraseology that was most common to both the flight crew and the controller was “declaring an emergency”
It is the normal procedure for ATC and crews to append their callsign with mayday so that EVERYONE knows what is happening and can then minimise transmissions.
Either way, the crew got ATCs attention and walked away to tell the tale, that's the main point.
I don't think the crew door is designed to be jettisoned in flight. It is designed for use on the ground if the fuselage is distorted and it can't be opened normally. It is impossible to believe that if it were jettisoned in flight it would miss No 2 prop. This is why the Crew Door light on the classic C130 or the Crew Door Warning on the C130J is treated so seriously.
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IIRC we had lots of crew door warning light problems when we first got the 'K'. Eventually the 'solution' was to remove the 'door closed' microswitch and just have the 'door locked' system in operation. The meant that in theory you could turn the handle to the locked position but still have the crew door open. This would still put out the master warning light !
As for carriage of parachutes they were worn by the loadmaster on certain airdrops (back type) and carried on the tanker (clip on WW2 fashion). I have no recollection of crew parachute carrying in any other role on the 'K'.
As for carriage of parachutes they were worn by the loadmaster on certain airdrops (back type) and carried on the tanker (clip on WW2 fashion). I have no recollection of crew parachute carrying in any other role on the 'K'.
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Nope, we only have your press reports saying they did and if they’re anything like ours then I would take it all with a pinch of salt.
Just curious how many crew members the USMC C130 tanker would carry on a tanking sortie. As for baling out if anyone did, then my door of choice in the circumstances would be the port para door. This is based on the pics of the damage over on the starboard side. You would not know if bits were still flying past on that side. I am assuming that if the ramp and door are useable in the air in their tanker C130 (not an option on the RAF C130 tanker !) the descent speed may have precluded its use. But they would have still had to be slow enough and high enough to get a para door open and the jumpers out safely. Just my thoughts of course.
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https://nbcpalmsprings.com/2020/10/1...ng-in-thermal/
The C-130 Military cargo plane has been moved to the Jacqueline Cochran Airport in Thermal. NBC Palm Springs viewer Steve Randall shared these photos with us.
The C-130 Military cargo plane has been moved to the Jacqueline Cochran Airport in Thermal. NBC Palm Springs viewer Steve Randall shared these photos with us.
the issue comes when callsigns subsequently join the frequency and just hear a callsign being mentioned i.e. RAIDER50 vs MAYDAY RAIDER50.
It is the normal procedure for ATC and crews to append their callsign with mayday so that EVERYONE knows what is happening and can then minimise transmissions.
Either way, the crew got ATCs attention and walked away to tell the tale, that's the main point.
It is the normal procedure for ATC and crews to append their callsign with mayday so that EVERYONE knows what is happening and can then minimise transmissions.
Either way, the crew got ATCs attention and walked away to tell the tale, that's the main point.
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More images, you can see the creasing of the front fuselage by the door and it looks like the prop warning markings are a couple of foot aft of the impact points.
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More images, you can see the creasing of the front fuselage by the door and it looks like the prop warning markings are a couple of foot aft of the impact points.
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A good speed range but IMHO the ramp and door would not be open at the upper limit. Perhaps the picture I saw was just a publicity shot without actual tanking taking place. If memory serves the RAF C130K tanker dispensed at 185 kts.
aa62, can`t find my little `blue-book` for tanking guidlines,but we`d always try to do it over 200 kts,assuming one was not too heavy...
Interesting to see that NP2000 props(8-bladed composites) are being retrofitted to other Herks in place of the metal paddles.
Interesting to read the investigation into the break-up of Bu.No 16500 over Mississippi,after a blade on #2 let go....!
Remind me of the `ramp and door `speed limits on our K` ,not tankers....another subject..
Interesting to see that NP2000 props(8-bladed composites) are being retrofitted to other Herks in place of the metal paddles.
Interesting to read the investigation into the break-up of Bu.No 16500 over Mississippi,after a blade on #2 let go....!
Remind me of the `ramp and door `speed limits on our K` ,not tankers....another subject..
150kts ramp and door (no HSR / shutters on a K)
170kts door only (no HSD or uprated actuator on a K)
I think...