How to destroy the Royal Air Force (?).
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Oh the myth of ‘dispersal’.
I did 14 years in the RAF and never made it to an operational unit, so what would have happened to the sharp end I don’t know about.
However, arriving at Linton as a QFI. War and we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
10 Months later I arrive at Cranwell to QFI and in the event of war we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
6 months later I arrive at Leeming to QFI, and in the event of war we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
1 year later I arrive at Finningley, and guess where we take all the aeroplanes in the event of war? You only get one guess.
I often wondered what W.F. were going to do with a few hundred aeroplanes and the aircrews.
I did 14 years in the RAF and never made it to an operational unit, so what would have happened to the sharp end I don’t know about.
However, arriving at Linton as a QFI. War and we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
10 Months later I arrive at Cranwell to QFI and in the event of war we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
6 months later I arrive at Leeming to QFI, and in the event of war we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
1 year later I arrive at Finningley, and guess where we take all the aeroplanes in the event of war? You only get one guess.
I often wondered what W.F. were going to do with a few hundred aeroplanes and the aircrews.
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Originally Posted by staircase
Oh the myth of ‘dispersal’.
I did 14 years in the RAF and never made it to an operational unit, so what would have happened to the sharp end I don’t know about.
However, arriving at Linton as a QFI. War and we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
10 Months later I arrive at Cranwell to QFI and in the event of war we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
6 months later I arrive at Leeming to QFI, and in the event of war we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
1 year later I arrive at Finningley, and guess where we take all the aeroplanes in the event of war? You only get one guess.
I often wondered what W.F. were going to do with a few hundred aeroplanes and the aircrews.
I did 14 years in the RAF and never made it to an operational unit, so what would have happened to the sharp end I don’t know about.
However, arriving at Linton as a QFI. War and we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
10 Months later I arrive at Cranwell to QFI and in the event of war we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
6 months later I arrive at Leeming to QFI, and in the event of war we would take all the aeroplanes to West Freugh.
1 year later I arrive at Finningley, and guess where we take all the aeroplanes in the event of war? You only get one guess.
I often wondered what W.F. were going to do with a few hundred aeroplanes and the aircrews.
Maybe there was a secret hangar at WF filled with JP to Strikemaster conversion kits? Use the 3's as the first wave as decoys and then hit em hard with a second wave of 5's armed to the teeth?
That would teach em.......provided they were in JP range.
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The idea behind a lot of these articles is that the United Kingdom is the only nation to have pared back its forces since 1989. Show me a NATO air arm (or a former Warsaw Pact one for that matter) that is not a shadow of its former self. And everybody has consolidated their forces in a much smaller number of locations. Even the Russians.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
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Even 30 years ago we were running out of runways. Come tea time it became a very difficult to book diversion airfields. If you didn't book Marham by 1700 they would stack.
We could not get two sqns out of 3 to nightfly on the same night. We often held Manchester with the assumption, use it once and they would say never again. At least today civil airfields might be happy with the landing fees.
We could not get two sqns out of 3 to nightfly on the same night. We often held Manchester with the assumption, use it once and they would say never again. At least today civil airfields might be happy with the landing fees.
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Originally Posted by PapaDolmio
That is one of the funniest posts I've read for a long time.
Maybe there was a secret hangar at WF filled with JP to Strikemaster conversion kits? Use the 3's as the first wave as decoys and then hit em hard with a second wave of 5's armed to the teeth?
That would teach em.......provided they were in JP range.
Maybe there was a secret hangar at WF filled with JP to Strikemaster conversion kits? Use the 3's as the first wave as decoys and then hit em hard with a second wave of 5's armed to the teeth?
That would teach em.......provided they were in JP range.
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Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
The idea behind a lot of these articles is that the United Kingdom is the only nation to have pared back its forces since 1989. Show me a NATO air arm (or a former Warsaw Pact one for that matter) that is not a shadow of its former self. And everybody has consolidated their forces in a much smaller number of locations. Even the RuINssians.
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Space Port infrastructure and investments will become more important in the future as the full capabilities of the X-47 program become known .
Space defensive systems will be more important in a missile exchange scenario against hypersonic weapons .
Everyone else is getting a space force and improved missile capabilities. The new Mitsubishi rockets that launched the Mars probes look promising for space payloads and delivery. The new missiles will have a bigger payload than the Mars rockets.
New Big Rockets are being built by the Russians , Chinese , Japanese , Americans , Not counting the smaller contributions of North Korea , Iran to Global threats . Threats that can only be countered by creating a balanced space capability for the RAF .
The big danger to the RAF in space would be how flammable brylcream is in a oxygen rich environment. The first task is to find hair care products that would allow them to do their job and look good doing it .
Space defensive systems will be more important in a missile exchange scenario against hypersonic weapons .
Everyone else is getting a space force and improved missile capabilities. The new Mitsubishi rockets that launched the Mars probes look promising for space payloads and delivery. The new missiles will have a bigger payload than the Mars rockets.
New Big Rockets are being built by the Russians , Chinese , Japanese , Americans , Not counting the smaller contributions of North Korea , Iran to Global threats . Threats that can only be countered by creating a balanced space capability for the RAF .
The big danger to the RAF in space would be how flammable brylcream is in a oxygen rich environment. The first task is to find hair care products that would allow them to do their job and look good doing it .
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Originally Posted by fitliker
Space Port infrastructure and investments will become more important in the future as the full capabilities of the X-47 program become known .
Space defensive systems will be more important in a missile exchange scenario against hypersonic weapons .
Everyone else is getting a space force and improved missile capabilities. The new Mitsubishi rockets that launched the Mars probes look promising for space payloads and delivery. The new missiles will have a bigger payload than the Mars rockets.
New Big Rockets are being built by the Russians , Chinese , Japanese , Americans , Not counting the smaller contributions of North Korea , Iran to Global threats . Threats that can only be countered by creating a balanced space capability for the RAF .
The big danger to the RAF in space would be how flammable brylcream is in a oxygen rich environment. The first task is to find hair care products that would allow them to do their job and look good doing it .
Space defensive systems will be more important in a missile exchange scenario against hypersonic weapons .
Everyone else is getting a space force and improved missile capabilities. The new Mitsubishi rockets that launched the Mars probes look promising for space payloads and delivery. The new missiles will have a bigger payload than the Mars rockets.
New Big Rockets are being built by the Russians , Chinese , Japanese , Americans , Not counting the smaller contributions of North Korea , Iran to Global threats . Threats that can only be countered by creating a balanced space capability for the RAF .
The big danger to the RAF in space would be how flammable brylcream is in a oxygen rich environment. The first task is to find hair care products that would allow them to do their job and look good doing it .
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Originally Posted by roger4
Isn't the UK one of the few NATO members to be spending >2% of GDP on defence? If so, the military forces of many of our European neighbours must be in an even worse state than us.
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Originally Posted by racedo
Yet another con, include the cost of pensions for long retired members of the services so they not out of general pensions but MOD budget, keep adding in any "potential" expenditure that "looks" military so get to the number. It wouldn't surprise me that the resurfacing of roads close to a base get lobbed into defence spending.
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
So what do they need their TU-160s, Flankers, Fencers, Surface Ships, Tanks etc for?
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But as I say , nice toys for the boys ( and I have enjoyed playing with them in bygone times ) ; great technology ( essential for future progress ) . The question now is how to get good value out of those tax payer dollars/pounds.to meet the new threat , which is inevitably going to be high tech cyber .
The problem is, Joe Public want to see fast jets / heavy bombers blasting overhead even though history has shown these assets often do not perform as effectively as advertised .
But they do impress / terrorise the "natives ", even though the cyber hacker can do far more damage . Silently .
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Originally Posted by racedo
Yet another con, include the cost of pensions for long retired members of the services so they not out of general pensions but MOD budget, keep adding in any "potential" expenditure that "looks" military so get to the number. It wouldn't surprise me that the resurfacing of roads close to a base get lobbed into defence spending.
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Originally Posted by roger4
Isn't the UK one of the few NATO members to be spending >2% of GDP on defence? If so, the military forces of many of our European neighbours must be in an even worse state than us.
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Europe (ESA) , India , Japan , China et al are going full steam ahead ..
