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Old 24th Dec 2020, 23:32
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Disgusted


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Disgusted


says it all.
Sorry for the thread drift but I agree with you our history of preservation is poor, I am still wondering how we did not preseve HMS Vanguard.
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Sorry for the thread drift but I agree with you our history of preservation is poor, I am still wondering how we did not preseve HMS Vanguard.
Vanguard was a post WW2 ship that really saw little service, and just because it was the last doesn't make it the 'one that got away'.

While we can't save/keep everything, we should have preserved one battleship, and that really should have been KGV, with it's WW2 service, and given it wasn't scrapped until 1957, that's perhaps far more of a travesty.
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Old 25th Dec 2020, 23:22
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With the Guppy having been broken up at Brunty a few weeks ago, the VC-10's have now been moved onto the scrapping pan in readiness for getting the chop next.....

At the risk of sounding like a fact checker, the VC10s have been moved onto the pan that they were living on before they were moved to allow the scrapping of the 747 and Guppy.

No confirmed status update yet.
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Old 26th Dec 2020, 08:56
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So, its not true then that there is an impending £25k rent demand due in January, which if not paid then the aircraft get the chop....?

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So, its not true then that there is an impending £25k rent demand due in January, which if not paid then the aircraft get the chop....?
Someone did post that on social media. It might be true, it might not be. We do not know.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Disgusted


says it all.
Sadly there’s no real viable alternative, other than the owner putting his hand in his pocket and getting several hundred thousand pounds out. Money he could never recoup from either taxiing it or as a museum piece, on an asset sadly worth only a fraction of that.

And this owner is responsible for ‘808 being at Cosford, ‘148 being at Newquay and to an extent ‘150 at Dunsfold. In addition he’s also mainly responsible for the preservation of several forward fuselages/flightdecks (‘104, ‘109, ‘108, ‘106, ‘149).



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Shame about 108, was it was offered complete I believe, but would have overhung the boundary of the aero park so got “shortened” it’s a crying shame that room cannot be made for these, when you think of the 10 the footprint 8n the site is negligible as you can park under the wings.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Shame about 108, was it was offered complete I believe, but would have overhung the boundary of the aero park so got “shortened” it’s a crying shame that room cannot be made for these, when you think of the 10 the footprint 8n the site is negligible as you can park under the wings.
Unfortunately parking under the wings is not an option and could be very expensive.
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Originally Posted by ZD241_VC10
And this owner is responsible for ‘808 being at Cosford, ‘148 being at Newquay and to an extent ‘150 at Dunsfold. In addition he’s also mainly responsible for the preservation of several forward fuselages/flightdecks (‘104, ‘109, ‘108, ‘106, ‘149).
I'm guessing the two at Brunty will be parts salvaged as much as poss for a spares package to go to the new owners of '150...?

(not that I think in all reality that's ever likely to see air under its wings again)

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Oh well, onwards and upwards! Or is it Per ardua ad astra?


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That's what you would call dragging it in.
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Just firewall the throttles and you're away.
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Originally Posted by ZD241_VC10
But as you infer, taking out ZD241, ZA147 and ZA150 (Dunsfold housing estate), you still have complete examples (for now) in Germany, Brooklands, Duxford, Cosford and Newquay.
Dunsfold housing estate plans delayed; the VC10 was recently joined by 2 x ex BA '747s.
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There's a list on Flyer Forums showing airframes which rhe RAF Museum is considering disposing of; sorry no link published.
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RAF Museum Disposals:
  • Auster Antarctic WE600 Relevance
  • Avro 707C WZ744 Significance
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  • DH Devon C.2 VP952 Significance/Interpretative potential
  • DH Moth G-AAMX Relevance
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  • Gloster Meteor F.8 Prone Pilot WK935 Duplication
  • Hafner Rotachute III P-5 Relevance On loan to Army Flying Museum
  • Hang-glider (civil) Relevance
  • Hawker P.1052 VX272 Significance On loan to Fleet Air Arm Museum
  • Hawker P.1127 XP831 Significance On loan to the Science Museum
  • Hawker Hunter F,1 WT619 Relevance
  • Hawker Hunter Mk.3 WB188 Significance On loan to Tangmere Military Aviation Museum
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  • NA B-25J Mitchell 44-29366 Relevance
  • NA P-51D Mustang 44-73415 Duplication/Completeness
  • Panavia Tornado XX946 Relevance
  • SA Jetstream T.1 XX496 Relevance/Environment
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  • Supermarine 517 VV106 Significance On loan to Fleet Air Arm Museum
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Old 30th Dec 2020, 07:53
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Ref the list. I would add that it is only "consideration". You will note that many on there are already on loan to other museums. Don't jump to conclusions.
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'Slingsby Sedbergh TX1 VX 275 - relevance'.
Particularly relevant to me considering I Cat 5d it in 1967!! Only reason it wasn't written off was because it was a presentation aircraft.
(Flew it several times after it was re-built by Slingsbys the last time being at White Waltham in '79).

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Old 30th Dec 2020, 10:14
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Shame about 108, was it was offered complete I believe, but would have overhung the boundary of the aero park so got “shortened”
The problem was that the Aeropark is too close to the runway. The tail of the VC10 would have created an obstacle that would interfere with the obstacle limitation surfaces around the runway.
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Couldn’t they lower it?
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