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Old 10th Jun 2020, 16:42
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New series of Das Boat on Sky

Question, I have being watching the new series and very good it is, but when they were attacked by a Sunderland they were torpedo attacks and one depth charge, did the Sunderland carry Torpedoes? I didn’t think they did, they also dropped them at a heck of a height.
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I’m surprised it hasn’t been pulled, like Gone With The Wind, as it highlights the unquestioned bravery of those Nazi crews.
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I’m surprised it hasn’t been pulled, like Gone With The Wind, as it highlights the unquestioned bravery of those Nazi crews.
They may well have been Nazis but were we not at war with Germany (for very good reasons)?
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There is only one Das Boot and it was made in 1982.
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793 U Boats were lost during WW2 from all causes and 28,000 lives lost, a 75% loss rate. The RN in contrast.lost 79 boats in WW2 which does not include ones such as X Craft. If you go to war in a submarine you deserve all the respect in the world.
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This is an interesting website https://uboat.net/
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Originally Posted by rolling20
There is only one Das Boot and it was made in 1982.

Not correct, there was the movie and two fantastic Tv series from I believe the same folks, both series are on Sky Atlantic and follow the same style and formatasf the film.

Season 2

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5830254/

season 1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5830254...f_=tt_eps_sn_1
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David Childs talks with Wolfgang Petersen and Jutgen Prochnow about the film The Boat (Das Boat) made in 1982. This interview was recorded at Imperial College London on 24 March 1982.
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We have a family interest in U Boats. I wrote about my Uncle Norman in my blog:
yorkshiremushroom.com
I've seen Das Boot a few times and it hasn't made me feel in the least sympathetic.

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If visiting Chicago, do take an opportunity for including the Museum of Science and Industry to see and tour Unterseeboot 505.
Captured by the U S Navy 4 June '44.
Chicago's hometown Wehrmacht artifact.
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Originally Posted by air pig
793 U Boats were lost during WW2 from all causes and 28,000 lives lost, a 75% loss rate. The RN in contrast.lost 79 boats in WW2 which does not include ones such as X Craft. If you go to war in a submarine you deserve all the respect in the world.
The US loss rate for subs during WW II was about 25% - which was higher than any other branch of the US military during the war (nearly all in the Pacific against the Japanese). It took serious cajons to volunteer for the submarine service (not sure if the German U-Boats were all volunteer, but the US was).
You don't have to approve of their cause to appreciate their bravery.

Willow, I toured that U Boat in Chicago several years back. Having also gone through the Bowfin at Pearl Harbor, I was shocked at how small the U Boat was in comparison.
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Regarding the new series the first episodes are ok but it quickly becomes unwatchable with stupid story lines.
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I don't know if the Sunderland carried torpedoes, but the PBY did, so I suspect the Suderland did as well.

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Not correct, there was the movie and two fantastic Tv series from I believe the same folks, both series are on Sky Atlantic and follow the same style and formatasf the film.

Season 2

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5830254/

season 1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5830254...f_=tt_eps_sn_1
Nut, I see irony is lost on you.
It is a bit like Dunkirk ( 1958) and Dunkirk (2017) , the original is in many eyes the only one and the best.
I don't know why everyone keeps calling it Das Boat, it is DAS BOOT!
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I watched the first Das Boot which I thought was superb. I think it was a film which was later split down to show as a mini series. I watched the second Sky series and thought it was a poor imitation. More concerned with events on shore than the action at sea. The first did have some shore scenes but it was done to show the mind set of crews and what they had to face. I gave up on the SKY series after watching 3 or 4 episodes.
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If you're going to make 2 series of 8 episodes each, then you have to expand the on-shore storylines to pad it out. I've not seen series 2 but series 1 was rather good. If the whole series was based on the u-boat then there wouldn't be enough of a story to fill it.
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I've got the "Directors cut" version of the original film which runs to 3.5 hours. IMHO its best watched in German with English subtitles rather than watching a dubbed version. I visited the U Boat pens at Lorient quite a few years ago. Very atmospheric.

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Originally Posted by tdracer
The US loss rate for subs during WW II was about 25% - which was higher than any other branch of the US military during the war (nearly all in the Pacific against the Japanese). It took serious cajons to volunteer for the submarine service (not sure if the German U-Boats were all volunteer, but the US was). You don't have to approve of their cause to appreciate their bravery.
Willow, I toured that U Boat in Chicago several years back. Having also gone through the Bowfin at Pearl Harbor, I was shocked at how small the U Boat was in comparison.
For us Brits there is a U-Boat here...https://www.visitliverpool.com/thing...-story-p229341
I think the important role that US subs played in isolating and defeating Japan doesn't receive the attention it deserves.
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My late father joined the Merchant Navy in 1944. He spent Christmas Eve night, 1944, aged 16, Mid-Atlantic, laying in his bunk, fully clothed with a life-jacket on, in case of a torpedo hit. As he was on a tanker carrying high-octane fuel, I’m not sure it would have done him
much good. He was lucky in the sense that, when he went to sea, the Allies had air cover across the entire Atlantic. He was assigned to, but taken off at the last moment a ship on the Russian Convoys, the ship he would have been on was sunk..
When I watched the original film Das Boot, I came away feeling claustrophobic. I had mixed feelings. I did feel sympathy for their suffering. They were clearly brave men. But they were also the men that tried to kill my father and condemned many of his colleagues to an awful death..
I haven’t seen the new film but I can’t for a moment imagine that it can surpass the original for it’s depiction of the sweaty claustrophobic frightening conditions, or of the stolid comradery (without the OTT conflict modern productions seem compelled to add).
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When I toured USS Bowfin 2 things struck me, how big it seamed but there were probably only 6 tourists on board and would have had a crew of 70 ish + Torpedoes making it quite claustrophobic but also as it was floating that even a small swell caused a substantial roll. Not the nicest feeling. But back to the Sky Series I also gave up on series 1 after 3 ep as I kept harking back to the film and have not yet looked at ser 2
As to the Uboat in Chicago. It was closed for maintainance when I was there. But even from the outside it was substantialy smaller than Bowfin. and you could see how the Das Boot Chief would have easily had a breakdown
Respect to any Submariners
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