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Canadian Forces Snowbirds CT-114 down in British Columbia

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Reports of a CF Snowbird accident in Kamloops

Early yet. Few details except one Tutor has impacted a house in Kamloops

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Canadian Forces Snowbirds CT-114 down in British Columbia

A CT-114 is down in Kamloops, BC; pilot is reported to have ejected
https://cfjctoday.com/2020/05/17/pla...-brocklehurst/

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This was their planned flight for this morning. They spell takeoff a little differently in this graphic.


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A couple of pictures from social media.



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A still from a video taken at the airport.

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I'm a level headed person, but this year has chipped away at my sanity. When the tour was announced I prayed to every single deity not to have to read this headline.

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A disturbing social media report.


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More reports from local social media of a possible female fatality, not confirmed.

It appears that the planned flyover was cancelled for weather and the planes were going to reposition to Comox.


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Clearly, weather does not appear to be a factor in this tragic crash. A 45-degree angle of bank on departure seems de rigueur for some Snowbird manoeuvres, however control of the bank angle, which includes pitch, appears to have rapidly deteriorated.

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From Kamloops This Week:
Witnesses saw at least one pilot eject before the plane crashed. He landed on the roof of a house on nearby Schreiner Street and was rescued by Kamloops Fire Rescue.

A witness told KTW a second person, a female, appeared to have succumbed to her injuries.

Dana Hings is a retired nurse from New Westminster who is visiting her daughter in Brock.

“We were in the garden and we heard a large crash,” Hings told KTW, noting they heard calls for medical help.

Hings and her daughter rushed to the backyard of the home and found a person who appeared to be deceased.

“I saw a deceased female with catastrophic injuries,” Hings said. “It looked like she hit a tree. It’s insane. It’s not supposed to happen. This [the Snowbirds tour] is supposed to be a good thing and she died.”

The Royal Canadian Air Force released a statement at 12:54 p.m. on Sunday: “The RCAF has been made aware that a Canadian Forces Snowbirds aircraft crashed in the vicinity of Kamloops, B.C. Our priority at this time is determining the status of our personnel and supporting emergency personnel. When appropriate, more information will be made available."

Cory Pelton was on Aviation Way, watching the planes, when he saw the crash and drove to the house the plane hit.

“You could smell raw fuel everywhere. I ran into the backyard and, just as I jumped over the back fence, I saw the elderly couple coming out. I asked if there was anyone else in there or any pets and they said no, that’s it.”

He said the plane hit the attached garage and a little bit of the house.

Another witness, a Kamloops man who did not wish to have his name published, said he was at the airport for an hour before the crash to watch the Snowbirds squadron take off as they were to continue their cross-Canada tour by heading to Vancouver lsland.

He said two jets took off together and all looked normal as they rose above the airport.

“All of a sudden, one of the planes suddenly went up, straight up, quite high, then it started dropping and doing a barrel roll,” he said. “It did a few spirals and I saw the ejector seat pop out. Then I saw a big fireball, an explosion.”

He said those watching the planes take off initially did not realize anything was wrong as the one Snowbird began climbing vertically, then descended with barrel rolls.“We thought it was going to do some kind of cool trick,” he said. “It was incredible. I can’t believe I saw it.
https://www.kamloopsthisweek.com/wit...use-1.24136744
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Awfully sad news. My thoughts and prayers to all those involved
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More information and videos here: https://aerobaticteams.net/en/news/i...-Kamloops.html
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Loss of thrust / engine failure. I can not link the video, from a different angle. You can hear the eng pop over the end of the runway.
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"Anomalies" During Ejection in October

Apparently there were issues during the ejection sequence when Capt. Kevin Domon-Grenier ejected from his Tutor last October in Georgia.

From a Dec. 1, 2019 article on Avweb:
Domon-Grenier was taken to a hospital as a precaution but released that evening. He reported “anomalies” with the ejection but the RCAF did not elaborate on what went wrong.
The ejections in this case looked as if the seats left the aircraft OK, but didn't counteract the descent at all. Do the Snowbirds' Tutor's still use the old Weber seats?
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Cell-phone videos of the take-off, immediate pitchup and roll, and crash, here: https://aerobaticteams.net/en/news/i...-Kamloops.html

I don't hear a "pop" until the impact (or maybe the ejection) - but maybe it's lost in the audio.
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full View Post
Cell-phone videos of the take-off, immediate pitchup and roll, and crash, here: https://aerobaticteams.net/en/news/i...-Kamloops.html

I don't hear a "pop" until the impact (or maybe the ejection) - but maybe it's lost in the audio.
At 10 seconds on the second linked video. Double pop later for both ejection seats. I had ear buds in when I heard it.
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Oufff. That wasn’t pretty.

Both seats are evident departing the jet. Only one parachute is visible just before entering the tree line. A number of the Squadrons support staff are female.

Condolences to the team and families.
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At 10 seconds on the second linked video. Double pop later for both ejection seats. I had ear buds in when I heard it.
Roger that. I still can't hear it myself, but that coincides with the start of the pitchup.
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Originally Posted by dave.rooney View Post
Apparently there were issues during the ejection sequence when Capt. Kevin Domon-Grenier ejected from his Tutor last October in Georgia.

From a Dec. 1, 2019 article on Avweb:


The ejections in this case looked as if the seats left the aircraft OK, but didn't counteract the descent at all. Do the Snowbirds' Tutor's still use the old Weber seats?
Don't know if they are Weber seats but an ex-RCAF Snowbird mechanic on CTV News Channel said they are not zero-zero seats.

Is it possible something went very wrong early and the pilot was trying to get altitude to safely eject but was not able to? Will obviously have to wait for the investigation, unsure if it is CTSB that investigate military incidents.
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Is it normal to see trails of brown/black smoke from an ejection seat?
Possibly given age of jets and not zero zero seats.
Haven't seen that before...
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