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I think the general idea was for recent BA joiners from the military to have the option to rejoin the RAF for a short period of time to fill vacancies. I gather that there were further opportunities for non ex military to throw their hats in the ring too, pending testing,suitability, etc. Sounds like a win-win to me?
[QUOTE]How are they going to react if they are told to go somewhere and be shot at?/QUOTE]
I should imagine that as adults,they have an idea that they are (re)joining the armed forces? What is the problem that certain people are having with the idea? That ex mil are rejoining for a short period, or that non military potentially have the opportunity to fill vacancies? After all, I can't imagine many Typhoon or F35 slots will be available for middle aged BA secondees.
I should imagine that as adults,they have an idea that they are (re)joining the armed forces? What is the problem that certain people are having with the idea? That ex mil are rejoining for a short period, or that non military potentially have the opportunity to fill vacancies? After all, I can't imagine many Typhoon or F35 slots will be available for middle aged BA secondees.
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I heard through a BA buddy of mine BALPA are negotiating with the RAF the F35/Typhoon slots to the BA guys/girls <28 years old to entice them across as their current pay is significantly higher than what the RAF offer thus any future or current RAF trainees go multi engine/general officer duties. It would mean a short service commission though. I think if there’s any truth in it we as an industry should hang our heads in shame. Many of friend of mine worked their bollocks off to get in the pointy end of a fast jet not a fat end of a transporter.
Sad times
Sad times
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I heard through a BA buddy of mine BALPA are negotiating with the RAF the F35/Typhoon slots to the BA guys/girls <28 years old to entice them across as their current pay is significantly higher than what the RAF offer thus any future or current RAF trainees go multi engine/general officer duties. It would mean a short service commission though. I think if there’s any truth in it we as an industry should hang our heads in shame. Many of friend of mine worked their bollocks off to get in the pointy not the fat end of a jet.
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Thats fair then, I would of thought the A330 slots would be a good fit for the programme.
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I heard through a BA buddy of mine BALPA are negotiating with the RAF the F35/Typhoon slots to the BA guys/girls <28 years old to entice them across as their current pay is significantly higher than what the RAF offer thus any future or current RAF trainees go multi engine/general officer duties. It would mean a short service commission though. I think if there’s any truth in it we as an industry should hang our heads in shame. Many of friend of mine worked their bollocks off to get in the pointy not the fat end of a jet.
Sad times
Sad times
Speaking as a current RAF FJ operator I can confirm that this is completely made up.
The problem the RAF currently has with manning is the inability to train aircrew. (Probably worthy of a whole different thread). The training system is running beyond capacity. Therefore unless a BA / VA etc secondee / rejoiner is at a standard to immediately start an Operational Conversion Unit or rejoin straight at the Front Line, then unfortunately I think the best they can hope for is an aviation related ground role.
The problem the RAF currently has with manning is the inability to train aircrew. (Probably worthy of a whole different thread). The training system is running beyond capacity. Therefore unless a BA / VA etc secondee / rejoiner is at a standard to immediately start an Operational Conversion Unit or rejoin straight at the Front Line, then unfortunately I think the best they can hope for is an aviation related ground role.
I don't think many BA people are looking at a (fictional) FJ slot, unless they've only just left the squadron and wouldn't mind going back. As the posters above mentioned, the 330 looks a good fit, but I understand there aren't any vacancies at the moment. Personally speaking, I would have thought it would be an opportunity for somebody that has had enough of flying and would like the challenge of a ground role. I also wonder how many BA people would struggle with SC and DV clearances with slightly out of the ordinary private lives, i.e non-residency for last 3 years and/or marriage to non UK citizens.
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Speaking as a current RAF FJ operator I can confirm that this is completely made up.
The problem the RAF currently has with manning is the inability to train aircrew. (Probably worthy of a whole different thread). The training system is running beyond capacity. Therefore unless a BA / VA etc secondee / rejoiner is at a standard to immediately start an Operational Conversion Unit or rejoin straight at the Front Line, then unfortunately I think the best they can hope for is an aviation related ground role.
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Speaking as a current RAF FJ operator I can confirm that this is completely made up.
The problem the RAF currently has with manning is the inability to train aircrew. (Probably worthy of a whole different thread). The training system is running beyond capacity. Therefore unless a BA / VA etc secondee / rejoiner is at a standard to immediately start an Operational Conversion Unit or rejoin straight at the Front Line, then unfortunately I think the best they can hope for is an aviation related ground role.
Reading the Sky News report, it appears clear that this is a BALPA\BACC initiative (as it was last time). The RAF will listen politely and have a look to see if there’s anything to be had out of it. As has also been pointed out, there’s also the matter of SC\DV to consider. It takes time, money and resource to process people and it’s not something you can easily expedite.
There would have to be real benefit to be gained for the treasury to approve any loan scheme.
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Pilots with no military experience will have to go through 6 months officer training. Re-treads would undertake 2 week refresher course. As always, you join the military as an officer first and pilot second. There’s a lot more to the job than simply poling a large aircraft around.
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Aircraft Commander first, pilot second (tends to keep you alive) and when I need to get authoritarian (only happened twice in 16 years) I will do the “lets start that conversation again” line.
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The whole idea is ludicrous......HOWEVER, if it does go ahead, you'll never get another BA pilot whingeing about crew meals/food.......good luck in the mess at RAF Cranwell!
Where would that leave the pilots waiting for ocu slots or on the ocu at the time?