Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Venezuelan Navy Ship Sinks after Ramming Cruise Ship

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Venezuelan Navy Ship Sinks after Ramming Cruise Ship

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 5th Apr 2020, 02:35
  #41 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 64
Posts: 7,197
Received 393 Likes on 244 Posts
It occurs to me that the Captain may have been given direct instructions over the radio "from home" (The Capital) to do whatever is needed to commandeer that vessel. When firing shots didn't do the trick and he reported back "they are not following instructions to come with us to port" then someone (significantly senior to the Captain) "back home" told him to shoulder/ram the other ship to influence their course.
The Captain, not wanting to be relieved followed his orders to the letter.

Did it happen that way?
No idea, but it might have.
Micro management has become quite the thing in this information age of instantaneous communications.
(Glad to see that all of the ship's personnel were retrieved from the water).
Lonewolf_50 is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2020, 03:06
  #42 (permalink)  
Drain Bamaged
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Earth
Age: 56
Posts: 536
Received 33 Likes on 13 Posts
Video Emerges Of Venezuelan Navy Ship Firing On And Colliding With Cruise Ship Before Sinking

The video, which the Venezuelan Navy released and is heavily edited, shows a Venezuelan seaman firing an AK-47 at the ship and then the two ships impacting, with the patrol boat quickly taking on water. The incident occurred in the early hours of March 30th, 2020, and the cruise ship, which was supposedly undergoing repairs at the time, was clearly making little if any speed through relatively calm waters.
ehwatezedoing is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2020, 03:37
  #43 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: N/A
Posts: 5,934
Received 392 Likes on 207 Posts
From the video it seems they parked themselves at close quarters beam on in front of the Resolute in an effort to impede the Resolutes progress, extremely low speed collision.
megan is online now  
Old 5th Apr 2020, 04:53
  #44 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Where I hang my hat.
Posts: 186
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I should like to doff my cap to the captain of the 'Resolute', he managed to sink an aggressive naval vessel with his ship basically out of action with engine problems, well done sir, your ship certainly lived up to her name.
Matt48 is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2020, 13:09
  #45 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Depends
Posts: 122
Received 79 Likes on 25 Posts
So this was right before the Venezuelan Navy became the Venezuelan swim team right?

Coat, hat...
Thirsty is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2020, 14:30
  #46 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,075
Received 66 Likes on 40 Posts
Now they have a third submarine.
Less Hair is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2020, 17:33
  #47 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 64
Posts: 7,197
Received 393 Likes on 244 Posts
Originally Posted by Thirsty
So this was right before the Venezuelan Navy became the Venezuelan swim team right?

Coat, hat...
Sorry, the Olympics are cancelled for this year, but at least they were ready.
(And thanks for the laugh, the Missus looked across the room at me and asked "what's so funny over there?")
Lonewolf_50 is offline  
Old 6th Apr 2020, 03:46
  #48 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,868
Received 2,816 Likes on 1,200 Posts
They should get together with the Norwegian navy for some exercises, now that would be interesting to watch.
NutLoose is online now  
Old 6th Apr 2020, 03:50
  #49 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,868
Received 2,816 Likes on 1,200 Posts
I can see the captains report now, I came upon a disabled ship adrift, I fired a warning shot across his bow then tore mine off... And if that wasn't bad enough I then brought home the video showing how inept we were, rather than letting it go down with the ship.
NutLoose is online now  
Old 6th Apr 2020, 04:18
  #50 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Isle of Man
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by megan
From the video it seems they parked themselves at close quarters beam on in front of the Resolute in an effort to impede the Resolutes progress, extremely low speed collision.
Never use your foot to stop a rolling truck

When the time comes they could make a nice modern office desk out of her decking and send it to the President; a Resolute desk two.
Islandlad is offline  
Old 6th Apr 2020, 05:39
  #51 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Japan
Posts: 1,953
Received 144 Likes on 87 Posts
A novel way of breaking the ice with the Venezuelans.
jolihokistix is offline  
Old 6th Apr 2020, 11:14
  #52 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: glasgow
Posts: 297
Received 29 Likes on 16 Posts
Is that a female voice you can hear on the bridge of the Venezuelan vessel.....?
Hat, coat,
falcon900 is offline  
Old 6th Apr 2020, 20:20
  #53 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 194
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Was there not a very smart man who once said..."I think we will need a bigger boat"!
Good Vibs is offline  
Old 6th Apr 2020, 22:27
  #54 (permalink)  
Gnome de PPRuNe
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Too close to Croydon for comfort
Age: 60
Posts: 12,616
Received 291 Likes on 159 Posts
Originally Posted by Good Vibs
Was there not a very smart man who once said..."I think we will need a bigger boat"!
Chief Brody!

An ad lib I believe...
treadigraph is offline  
Old 7th Apr 2020, 00:07
  #55 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Where I hang my hat.
Posts: 186
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by NutLoose
Ohhh dear...we were right Jack

They would have had a bit of a dilemma, if the ship had responded and they took the crew off, doesn’t the law of the sea require you to land the said survivors at the nearest port, which would have been the one they were trying to get them to go in the first place..


..
It looks like the Captain of the Resolute had a great day, they even managed to wiggle out of a potential dilemma involving rescueing the patrol boats' crew and returning them to port.
Matt48 is offline  
Old 7th Apr 2020, 01:07
  #56 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: N/A
Posts: 5,934
Received 392 Likes on 207 Posts
The Resolute Captain had an issue that makes his actions in not rescuing understandable. There were 32 crew on his ship and he would have been rescuing 44 possibly still armed opposition. What do you think the outcome would have been had he rescued them? Would not have ended well for the Resolute crew.
megan is online now  
Old 7th Apr 2020, 08:47
  #57 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Where I hang my hat.
Posts: 186
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by megan
The Resolute Captain had an issue that makes his actions in not rescuing understandable. There were 32 crew on his ship and he would have been rescuing 44 possibly still armed opposition. What do you think the outcome would have been had he rescued them? Would not have ended well for the Resolute crew.
Megan,
I agree with your post completely, sorry if my post may have come across as slightly sarcastic.
I was thinking the skipper had a win in not being possibly held in port if he had to deliver the rescued crew.
Matt48 is offline  
Old 7th Apr 2020, 08:49
  #58 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 5,222
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
The ship can take 146 passengers with about the same number of crew. Properly victualled with disposables the Venezuelans would have got around 6,000 toilet rolls.
Fareastdriver is offline  
Old 7th Apr 2020, 09:51
  #59 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: SE Australia
Posts: 154
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
The ship can take 146 passengers with about the same number of crew. Properly victualled with disposables the Venezuelans would have got around 6,000 toilet rolls.
ROFL, could you post me a new keyboard please! Current one is covered in a spray of red!
SRFred is offline  
Old 7th Apr 2020, 13:01
  #60 (permalink)  
TWT
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: troposphere
Posts: 831
Received 32 Likes on 17 Posts
The Venezuelans should have outsourced the job to Somalia.

Their seafarers have a lot of experience in this type of operation.
TWT is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.