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Old 30th Jan 2020, 21:39
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They are all heading to Arrowe Park Hospital near Liverpool......
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 21:47
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The norovirus capital of the Wirral.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 22:10
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So, given that they've had an 11.5 hour flight from Wuhan, they now have to suffer a 3-hour (at best) journey to Arrowe Park. And what happens when they need a 'comfort break?' Do they shut down Norton Canes for a day or two?

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Old 30th Jan 2020, 22:20
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There is no sense at all in landing at Brize and then bussing people all the way to the Wirral. Just imagine if one of the buses had an accident on one of the motorways en route and a busload of potentially contaminated people spilled out on to the motorway? Now that would be chaos!
Liverpool would be the ideal choice, a very short drive through the tunnel and there you are!
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Originally Posted by KelvinD
There is no sense at all in landing at Brize and then bussing people all the way to the Wirral. Just imagine if one of the buses had an accident on one of the motorways en route and a busload of potentially contaminated people spilled out on to the motorway? Now that would be chaos!
Liverpool would be the ideal choice, a very short drive through the tunnel and there you are!
There is no sense in bussing squadrons of people from Lossie down to Brize and back every few months for a Shader roulement when Voyager could easily land there and pick up the passengers (saving everyone the horror of the 14 hour happy bus, and an overnight in the gateway with no food or drink)

But I do agree, Liverpool, Manchester and possibly even Warton would all have been far better choices.

Still, at Brize they don't have to worry about customs!
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 03:02
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Wamos B744 EC-KXN landed Wuhan recently, in from Hanoi
Flight PLM8471 inbound, estimated arrival 1pm UK.

https://www.radarbox24.com/data/flights/EB8471
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 05:44
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Are you an expert in Voyager ops then?
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 05:56
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So we are going to use a normal Quant Arse crew to evacuate our people. Crew will do a normal Sydney to Hong Kong run tonight, Friday. Then rest for about 36 hours before going to China then on to Darwin landing Monday at 2.30 am.
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 06:23
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Lomon,

​​​​​​"Still, at Brize they don't have to worry about customs!"

Oh yes they will!

Clearly Voyager ops NOT your expert subject...
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 07:44
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
Lomon,

​​​​​​"Still, at Brize they don't have to worry about customs!"

Oh yes they will!

Clearly Voyager ops NOT your expert subject...
Mind you, I don't see Customs being too keen on getting up close and personal. Stand back and let RAF Police do it.😀

Immigration will be interesting too as these will most likely be long term out of UK and Chinese nationals too. That might be why they are not using a civil airport. Trying to process the pax in a civil terminal or the apron would be disruptive.

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I see the BBC, 3 Hours after the ETD say the flight was delayed. Some journey, flight delay, processing at Brize, bus to Arrow Park
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 07:58
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Originally Posted by G-ARZG
Wamos B744 EC-KXN landed Wuhan recently, in from Hanoi
I wonder what procedures are going to be taken to clean the aircraft after this flight.
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Two cases of coronavirus have been confirmed in the UK, Public Health England says.
https://news.sky.com/story/two-cases...in-uk-11922375
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 09:11
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PLM8471 B744 Wuhan Brize. EC-KXN just passed abeam Helsinki 1010 uk local time
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Can anyone explain to me why this flight was not done by the RAF? Were there diplomatic issues perhaps?
In days gone by that would have been almost automatic. Given that the forces are well equipped to deal with casualties, I'd have thought an RAF transport with a small group of medical staff aboard just in case would have been a comforting and efficient way to do this.
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Originally Posted by biscuit74
Can anyone explain to me why this flight was not done by the RAF? Were there diplomatic issues perhaps?
In days gone by that would have been almost automatic. Given that the forces are well equipped to deal with casualties, I'd have thought an RAF transport with a small group of medical staff aboard just in case would have been a comforting and efficient way to do this.
Charter would have been much cheaper than the hourly rate for FCO is my guess. Either that or military dip clearance lead times for overflight vs civilian freedoms of the ether.

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Old 31st Jan 2020, 11:51
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Originally Posted by carmel
Flight PLM8471 inbound, estimated arrival 1pm UK.

https://www.radarbox24.com/data/flights/EB8471
Now just passed over the Edinburgh area, and should pass quite close to the Wirral before landing at Brize at approximately 1325....😱

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Old 31st Jan 2020, 11:51
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Originally Posted by biscuit74
Can anyone explain to me why this flight was not done by the RAF? Were there diplomatic issues perhaps?
In days gone by that would have been almost automatic. Given that the forces are well equipped to deal with casualties, I'd have thought an RAF transport with a small group of medical staff aboard just in case would have been a comforting and efficient way to do this.
Or perhaps a destroyer up the Yangtze, that passes Wuhan..

I agree it seems strange to land at Brize unless it's to top up with cheap fuel.
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 11:57
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Now just passed over the Edinburgh area, and should pass quite close to the Wirral before landing at Brize at approximately 1325....😱

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Maybe they just intend to offload as they over fly. Parachutes issued at Wuhan would save a road trip back up from Brize.
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 11:57
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Must remember to hold my breath when it passes over my house... I'll close the windows and pull the curtains for good measure
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If they look out of the window now, they’ll see their accommodation below them
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