The French
This from the BBC explains a little of the French psyche:-
BBC - Travel - Why the French love to say no
BBC - Travel - Why the French love to say no
common habit in many non European countries... Indonesia, India etc etc
I was taught never to ask a question that can be answered Yes or No - so never "is this job finished?" rather "would you be kind enough to show me your progress on this job?"
I was taught never to ask a question that can be answered Yes or No - so never "is this job finished?" rather "would you be kind enough to show me your progress on this job?"
No, I am not.
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Guys, your deep and unbiased knowledge of the psyche of other countries as well as recent history and military operations is to be commended.
A very enlighting conversation, respect to the OP...
A very enlighting conversation, respect to the OP...
You can connect the dots yourself. In a nutshell:
Strike package takes off from the UK in public view.
Elements still manage to arrive early over target and hit G's family.
Early french reports about secret overflight get silenced after hours.
French get preferred US treatment soon after.
Strike package takes off from the UK in public view.
Elements still manage to arrive early over target and hit G's family.
Early french reports about secret overflight get silenced after hours.
French get preferred US treatment soon after.
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A question about the weapons systems; my memory from the time is that the ordinance was effectivey dropped ballistically on a lat and long, there being no laser target designators, yet the PDF above talks a lot about 'laser guided' Paveways. I also understood that several/most of the targets were missed, this was attributed by some to the Wermacht-produced maps of northern Libya not being aligned with WGS 84. Can anyone who knows more about this or remembers the raid better than I comment, please?
The PDF discusses the reasons for the misses and how the bombing was done following all sorts of systems failures. Did you miss that part?
Try this video.....
Ignore what you want.
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The PDF discusses the reasons for the misses and how the bombing was done following all sorts of systems failures. Did you miss that part?
The French
So, just having finished my shower, in CSE , an EI pilot comes into my room to ask me what is going on ? A mass launch at Upper Heyford could be heard from the open windows. Sticking my head out I see a holding pattern in the sky of contrails about 25,000' plus. Knowing there was no AAR training area above Oxford, I surmised an attack was being launched and forecast Tripoli. Said " we will know in the morning, or just before. Being blessed with the presence of Libyan Arab Airline pilots , who regaled in frivolity in the showers entailing large consumption of wet toilet paper ( hence the early shower ), not much used in the latrine I may add, I expected a large arrival of police/SB/5 just prior to any public broadcast of said prediction. Then we will know. On cue, a few hours later , in come the plod , and hay presto, a dearth of our beloved foreign colonial gentlemen friends from class the next day. Back to ' Plotting ' !
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You can connect the dots yourself. In a nutshell:
Strike package takes off from the UK in public view.
Elements still manage to arrive early over target and hit G's family.
Early french reports about secret overflight get silenced after hours.
French get preferred US treatment soon after.
Strike package takes off from the UK in public view.
Elements still manage to arrive early over target and hit G's family.
Early french reports about secret overflight get silenced after hours.
French get preferred US treatment soon after.
that might have been the US trying to appease the french since the ACCIDENTALLY bombed (or very near misses)there embassy on that raid in Tripoli!
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I noticed he's labelled as a moderator, why not move this thread to JB where it belongs ?
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