Boom in London - Boob in Grauniad

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Apparently it was a ex El AL 767 on a positioning flight from Tel Aviv to the USA

https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight...medium=twitter

[911slf]

I dare say that it is often necessary to go supersonic when intercepting something cruising at around M 0.8. Given the amount of fuss this generated, does anyone seriously believe there is an acceptable level of sonic boom from a business jet? I have heard it stated that with some designs under some circumstances it would be no louder than a car door slamming. That would certainly arouse comment from half my neighbours if it happened at 04:00.

[Auxtank]

Given the Grauniad I'm surprised we didn't get a shot of one of these;

[WHBM]

Originally Posted by davidevans54

OMG its a military jet, for illustration purposes. The article was essentially accurate, nobody is bothered that they didn 't show, the exact aircraft type.

So, alongside a story about the British Prime Minister, they illustrate it with a photo of Putin. Well, they are both political leaders, they are both wearing a suit. What does it matter that the exact country they are from is different ...

[t43562]

Originally Posted by WHBM

So, alongside a story about the British Prime Minister, they illustrate it with a photo of Putin. Well, they are both political leaders, they are both wearing a suit. What does it matter that the exact country they are from is different ...

Looks like the photo might have been taken from a Typhoon, showing one of the things it has scrambled to intercept in the past. And indeed, what difference is there Between Putin and the other guy - isn't a lot of Russian money helping him along?

[Auxtank]

Come on guys - let's not turn this thread in to a rather under-entertaining Troll's Tea Party.

Back under your respective bridges in the woods immediately, please...

Here's a lovely pic of the aircraft (Cor Blimey, I wish my missus had a heat bloom like that....)



almost as good as the real thing... (with striking geometrical similarities)

[N707ZS]

Have we dared to figure what they were chasing after.

[treadigraph]

It was an ex El Al 767 being ferried to the US.

[Auxtank]

Originally Posted by treadigraph

It was an ex El Al 767 being ferried to the US.

Nearly gave the skipper a heart-attack, or so he says;
Had Coms INOP for a bit and by the time they came back on he was already chatting to TMA.
Gave the boys a workout - nothing wrong with that...do 'em good; Practise getting up there and quickest.
And no SU-27s were hurt in the executing of this SOP - despite what the Grauniad printed earlier today...
And no, we didn't scramble any F-35s either - though that would have been definitive in the extreme. Perhaps TOO extreme...but they'e waiting...salivating in fact.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50622110

[Repos]

A question if I may - idle curiosity

In my part of the world we get abot 6 a year of various intensity, largely as a result of a base about 30km away.
They make you jump a bit occasionally and the only time it was a problem was a few summers ago when I was shirtless on the terrace holding the cat. Yes - blood drawn.

I've tried the jolly interwebby thing but I'm not clear on how widespread is the ban on overland supersonic flight across the world?
Also, is it driven by genuine environmental issues, damage to property, scaring livestock, or jusr trying to avoid litigation?

[TBM-Legend]

...and in my part of the World we simply say "she'll be right mate" and go back to the bar!

[FinelyChopped]

Doesn't No. II (AC) Squadron fly from Lossiemouth rather than Coningsby?

[Asturias56]

"In this part of London, there's been a lot of back-and-forth rotary wing stuff earlier in the week,"

NATO Meeting in Herts this week - Trump visiting UK??

[wiggy]

Originally Posted by Repos

I've tried the jolly interwebby thing but I'm not clear on how widespread is the ban on overland supersonic flight across the world?

FWIW it is certainly allowed at hi level over some parts of France

We actually don't live under one of those areas but for some reason we got what sounded like a boom from a pair yesterday..

..not sure what that was about,

[TEEEJ]

Originally Posted by N707ZS

Have we dared to figure what they were chasing after.

The following flight. See playback.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...725sh#23073509

[BEagle]

Boom in London - Boob in Grauniad

On page 3, was it?

Routine live Q scrambles and supersonic flight are becoming the norm. Much as it will doubtless upset the snowflakes and mad Swedish schoolgirl doom prophets, I think it's A Good Thing. Intercepting 'rogue' airliners needs to be conducted expeditiously.

[Video Mixdown]

Originally Posted by BEagle

Intercepting 'rogue' airliners needs to be conducted expeditiously.

Hats off to Brize Norton too, who had tanker support airborne by around 0447.

[Tankertrashnav]

I hadn't thought about that. Back in the days long before 9/11 QRA was invariably there to react to Soviet aircraft in the vicinity of UK airspace (as it still is for Russian aircraft). We normally had good intelligence on the likelihood of a Bear coming close enough to need intercepting, and our Dragonfly (later Tansor) tanker crews only held 3 hours readiness (I could be at home in Kings Lynn as long as I was on the end of a phone) . If a threat was imminent we came up to one hour, and occasionally less. I assume the Brize tankers are now on something like 15 minutes readiness to be able to react so quickly.

[BEagle]

NEED TO KNOW ALERT!!

[Pontius Navigator]

Originally Posted by malanda

I did a TinEye search to find where that original image came from, and the only match was
https://www.businessinsider.com/nato...19-7?r=US&IR=T
Given the caption on that picture, it's an understandable mistake. (If you think the Russians do press releases when they are intercepted)

Just press or click on their image and do a Google search. Then you will find even the Sun and Mail had it then.