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Boom in London - Boob in Grauniad

Old 1st Dec 2019, 15:42
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In absolute fairness, the average person wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a Typhoon or a Tornado.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 16:21
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Apparently it was a ex El AL 767 on a positioning flight from Tel Aviv to the USA

https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight...medium=twitter
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 16:44
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I dare say that it is often necessary to go supersonic when intercepting something cruising at around M 0.8. Given the amount of fuss this generated, does anyone seriously believe there is an acceptable level of sonic boom from a business jet? I have heard it stated that with some designs under some circumstances it would be no louder than a car door slamming. That would certainly arouse comment from half my neighbours if it happened at 04:00.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 17:36
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Given the Grauniad I'm surprised we didn't get a shot of one of these;

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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:30
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Originally Posted by davidevans54 View Post
OMG its a military jet, for illustration purposes. The article was essentially accurate, nobody is bothered that they didn 't show, the exact aircraft type.
So, alongside a story about the British Prime Minister, they illustrate it with a photo of Putin. Well, they are both political leaders, they are both wearing a suit. What does it matter that the exact country they are from is different ...
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:52
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So, alongside a story about the British Prime Minister, they illustrate it with a photo of Putin. Well, they are both political leaders, they are both wearing a suit. What does it matter that the exact country they are from is different ...
Looks like the photo might have been taken from a Typhoon, showing one of the things it has scrambled to intercept in the past. And indeed, what difference is there Between Putin and the other guy - isn't a lot of Russian money helping him along?
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:58
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Come on guys - let's not turn this thread in to a rather under-entertaining Troll's Tea Party.

Back under your respective bridges in the woods immediately, please...

Here's a lovely pic of the aircraft (Cor Blimey, I wish my missus had a heat bloom like that....)



almost as good as the real thing... (with striking geometrical similarities)


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Old 1st Dec 2019, 19:40
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Have we dared to figure what they were chasing after.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 19:42
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It was an ex El Al 767 being ferried to the US.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 20:10
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It was an ex El Al 767 being ferried to the US.
Nearly gave the skipper a heart-attack, or so he says;
Had Coms INOP for a bit and by the time they came back on he was already chatting to TMA.
Gave the boys a workout - nothing wrong with that...do 'em good; Practise getting up there and quickest.
And no SU-27s were hurt in the executing of this SOP - despite what the Grauniad printed earlier today...
And no, we didn't scramble any F-35s either - though that would have been definitive in the extreme. Perhaps TOO extreme...but they'e waiting...salivating in fact.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50622110

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Old 1st Dec 2019, 20:14
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A question if I may - idle curiosity

In my part of the world we get abot 6 a year of various intensity, largely as a result of a base about 30km away.
They make you jump a bit occasionally and the only time it was a problem was a few summers ago when I was shirtless on the terrace holding the cat. Yes - blood drawn.

I've tried the jolly interwebby thing but I'm not clear on how widespread is the ban on overland supersonic flight across the world?
Also, is it driven by genuine environmental issues, damage to property, scaring livestock, or jusr trying to avoid litigation?
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 23:02
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...and in my part of the World we simply say "she'll be right mate" and go back to the bar!
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 23:06
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Doesn't No. II (AC) Squadron fly from Lossiemouth rather than Coningsby?
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 00:06
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Practice for next week's Nato meet ?

With the bonus that it keeps heads down after London Bridge. Raises the question chicken or egg ?

If they were "Bustering" from Coningsby, surely you'd want to be sub-sonic by the time you were near the TMA i.e. pulling back the lever at Hertford.

In this part of London, there's been a lot of back-and-forth rotary wing stuff earlier in the week, particularly nocturnal and not commercial. Usually an indication something's going to happen.

Are the NATO attendees in for a "Shall we dance" request re the whirling (Or is that whirring ?) dervishes as a lot of time has elapsed since July ?

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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 08:40
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"In this part of London, there's been a lot of back-and-forth rotary wing stuff earlier in the week,"

NATO Meeting in Herts this week - Trump visiting UK??
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 09:10
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Originally Posted by Repos View Post
I've tried the jolly interwebby thing but I'm not clear on how widespread is the ban on overland supersonic flight across the world?
FWIW it is certainly allowed at hi level over some parts of France

We actually don't live under one of those areas but for some reason we got what sounded like a boom from a pair yesterday..

..not sure what that was about,

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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 09:55
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
"In this part of London, there's been a lot of back-and-forth rotary wing stuff earlier in the week,"

NATO Meeting in Herts this week - Trump visiting UK??
I know what happened . . Nav error by El Al . . . . by mistake the first leg of the "knicke-bein" started at the site of the old embassy.

How we laughed.

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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 10:03
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Have we dared to figure what they were chasing after.
The following flight. See playback.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...725sh#23073509
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 10:10
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Favourite game there is the "Tour de France" . . . following the line of the coast at low level, especially first thing in the morning.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 10:45
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Boom in London - Boob in Grauniad
On page 3, was it?

Routine live Q scrambles and supersonic flight are becoming the norm. Much as it will doubtless upset the snowflakes and mad Swedish schoolgirl doom prophets, I think it's A Good Thing. Intercepting 'rogue' airliners needs to be conducted expeditiously.
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