Airliner intercept for training?
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Video FR-9026 30 Oct 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-0npSuKgn8&t=38s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-0npSuKgn8&t=38s
A) The Air Force
B) Each passenger
For the privilege of participation in this exercise ??
Just curious
David
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Last edited by Capn Bloggs; 31st Oct 2019 at 14:25. Reason: D'oh. Added "other".
I remember being intercepted through prior arrangement over the Irish Sea by a Tornado. It was a “jolly” for all the pax so there was a 3rd pilot on the JS doing PAs - he counted down and at zero they went full afterburner which was enjoyed by all as it was a night flight.
These days I think the H&S risk assessment would say “no” before you asked the question. If you’d really like to see some military aircraft up close, don’t reply to radio calls for 10mins over Europe...
These days I think the H&S risk assessment would say “no” before you asked the question. If you’d really like to see some military aircraft up close, don’t reply to radio calls for 10mins over Europe...
Does anyone else recall the regular experimental routing of scheduled passenger services up the East Coast from London on 1991/2? It was a sort of "hang a left at Clacton VOR and keep going north-ish"-arrangement . The idea was to free capacity on the Daventry Sector.
The Aerad charts were almost solid blue east of Alpha 1 in those days, service provided by Eastern Radar, and intercepts fairly common, so I understand.
Somewhere there is a photo of a couple of Tornadoes formate-ing with a BA 757.
The Aerad charts were almost solid blue east of Alpha 1 in those days, service provided by Eastern Radar, and intercepts fairly common, so I understand.
Somewhere there is a photo of a couple of Tornadoes formate-ing with a BA 757.
At the time of the first Gulf war, I was working on the cross Channel ferries. During one particular return voyage from Boulogne, the Captain came on the tannoy and advised passengers the RAF would be making some low passes for "training purposes". We and most of the passengers spent a delightful quarter of an hour watching a pair of Tornados make a series of "straffing runs" at an altitude that just cleared the mast tops.
After 5 or so passes, they flew in a big circle around the ship before departing and climbing rapidly on afterburners to a huge cheer and applause from the passengers.
After 5 or so passes, they flew in a big circle around the ship before departing and climbing rapidly on afterburners to a huge cheer and applause from the passengers.
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Why don't you ask this question on the Military Forum, I'm sure that you may receive some more informed answers?
I my day QRA (or its equivalent) was entitled to Police all of its Nations Sovereign Airspace. There were set regulations and qualification requirements ie Combat Ready AD.
Civilian pilots should be pleased rather than scared, worried or distressed when being intercepted by a qualified pilot/crew.
Of course if you choose to blunder through VRF airspace and come close to a 2V2 Air Combat sortie then "see and avoid"!
I my day QRA (or its equivalent) was entitled to Police all of its Nations Sovereign Airspace. There were set regulations and qualification requirements ie Combat Ready AD.
Civilian pilots should be pleased rather than scared, worried or distressed when being intercepted by a qualified pilot/crew.
Of course if you choose to blunder through VRF airspace and come close to a 2V2 Air Combat sortie then "see and avoid"!
It happened - allegedly
Allegedly a Lightning flown by D*** G****** overtook the Concorde and barrel-rolled around it. The Concorde crew were not impressed.
FW
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I was intercepted without warning by a Lightening flying out of Binbrook years ago in an F27. It scared the sh!t out of us when the F/O’s side window was suddenly filled with the gleaming silver monster. It turned out to be flown by the Station Commander on an early morning MET sortie. Not impressed, but wish I had a picture.
Have you been struck by lightning?
What spiffing larks
Video FR-9026 30 Oct 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-0npSuKgn8&t=38s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-0npSuKgn8&t=38s
''Our flight disappeared from radars while flying over Austria. ATC was unable to communicate with our plane. We were flying from Girona to Bratislava, 25.10.2019 on Ryanair Boeing 737-800
Austrian Air force sent 2 Eurofighter Typhoons to check out on our flight.
Cabin crew was silent. During this flight no information about this encounter was given to passengers.''
Oops - well it's viral now....
Looks like fun BUT the Video poster says -
''Our flight disappeared from radars while flying over Austria. ATC was unable to communicate with our plane. We were flying from Girona to Bratislava, 25.10.2019 on Ryanair Boeing 737-800
Austrian Air force sent 2 Eurofighter Typhoons to check out on our flight.
Cabin crew was silent. During this flight no information about this encounter was given to passengers.''
''Our flight disappeared from radars while flying over Austria. ATC was unable to communicate with our plane. We were flying from Girona to Bratislava, 25.10.2019 on Ryanair Boeing 737-800
Austrian Air force sent 2 Eurofighter Typhoons to check out on our flight.
Cabin crew was silent. During this flight no information about this encounter was given to passengers.''
How does a passenger know that the aircraft they are on has disappeared from radar ?
Best.
We used to contract Concorde to fly large supersonic figures of 8 over the north sea and used Lightnings and F4s to fly practice intercepts against Concorde.
Allegedly a Lightning flown by D*** G****** overtook the Concorde and barrel-rolled around it. The Concorde crew were not impressed.
FW
Allegedly a Lightning flown by D*** G****** overtook the Concorde and barrel-rolled around it. The Concorde crew were not impressed.
FW
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I'd say practice intercepts are much more common than known as sovereign countries have their own rights to practice. Who would notice a fighter behind or below him? Or a hot missile aiming for him...
Might feel uncomfortable but this is the reality. No drama.
Might feel uncomfortable but this is the reality. No drama.
Sounds to me like one or two of these stories have been embellished 
North Sea, Night Pairs PI .sortie .tick...
Playmate goes inop shortly after you’ve come off the tanker and toddles off home...tick...
Boss wants hours...tick, yawn...starts singing “Wing Commanders AFC ..”
So.... I would like to belatedly thank the crews of the Britannia 737 and a USAF Nightingale, otherwise it would have been a heck of a long night.....
North Sea, Night Pairs PI .sortie .tick...
Playmate goes inop shortly after you’ve come off the tanker and toddles off home...tick...
Boss wants hours...tick, yawn...starts singing “Wing Commanders AFC ..”
So.... I would like to belatedly thank the crews of the Britannia 737 and a USAF Nightingale, otherwise it would have been a heck of a long night.....
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Airliner interception training-what could possibly go wrong? Apart from quite a few collisions over the years. And a handful of accidental shoot-downs. I think it’s a no from me!
What 'quite a few' collisions are we talking of here? Fighter vs airliner? Their pilots fly in close formation almost every day, and what collisions do occur tend to happen on the close formation environment. With the QRA scenario, they will not be allowed to close on their 'target' until they are in visual contact.
But don't worry about denying them the opportunity to practice - they will defend you anyway come the day. And for half your salary.
We used to contract Concorde to fly large supersonic figures of 8 over the north sea and used Lightnings and F4s to fly practice intercepts against Concorde.
Allegedly a Lightning flown by D*** G****** overtook the Concorde and barrel-rolled around it. The Concorde crew were not impressed.
FW
Allegedly a Lightning flown by D*** G****** overtook the Concorde and barrel-rolled around it. The Concorde crew were not impressed.
FW
The Lightning had Mach 2 capability, but not for long, hardly enough to climb to Concorde level 60,000 ft and then do barrel rolls.
We used to contract Concorde to fly large supersonic figures of 8 over the north sea and used Lightnings and F4s to fly practice intercepts against Concorde.
Allegedly a Lightning flown by D*** G****** overtook the Concorde and barrel-rolled around it. The Concorde crew were not impressed.
FW
Allegedly a Lightning flown by D*** G****** overtook the Concorde and barrel-rolled around it. The Concorde crew were not impressed.
FW