RAF to retire Tucano
Dominator, allow me to be the first to say "nice Belvoir".
Don't mind what is used for training, so long as the first aircraft in any pilot's career is one where he/she sits next to the instructor. In my own experience (started on JP3a), I learned far more about watching what the instructor did and how and when he (in those days, it was always he...) did it; it also allowed the instructor to check during IF that the student wasn't going for the "a glimpse is worth a thousand scans" technique. The other adage I learned from one of the gentlemen on Standards was that an ideal trainer is an aircraft that is easy to fly, but difficult to fly well - I hope Tucano's replacement fits the bill.
Don't mind what is used for training, so long as the first aircraft in any pilot's career is one where he/she sits next to the instructor. In my own experience (started on JP3a), I learned far more about watching what the instructor did and how and when he (in those days, it was always he...) did it; it also allowed the instructor to check during IF that the student wasn't going for the "a glimpse is worth a thousand scans" technique. The other adage I learned from one of the gentlemen on Standards was that an ideal trainer is an aircraft that is easy to fly, but difficult to fly well - I hope Tucano's replacement fits the bill.
Tucanos to Cranwell now a 12:00 start from Linton
From 72 Squadron ;
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Edit 19/10 ; I'm not sure were the rest of that post went but there will be 9-ship practice days next week on Wednesday and Thursday before the finale on Friday , 25th .
Edit 19/10 ; I'm not sure were the rest of that post went but there will be 9-ship practice days next week on Wednesday and Thursday before the finale on Friday , 25th .
Last edited by David Thompson; 19th Oct 2019 at 09:52. Reason: More info added .
I here the fleet is to be dismantled back to parts but surely there must be some sort of market to auction airworthy aircraft.
Also herd the Texan doesn't like the salt air at Valley and corrosion is starting to attack, perhaps Linton might of been kinder to the desert airframes.
Also herd the Texan doesn't like the salt air at Valley and corrosion is starting to attack, perhaps Linton might of been kinder to the desert airframes.
chopper2004 The T6 has ejection seats, however it uses the US style man mounted torso harness, rather than the traditional M-B style combined harness found on all current RAF ejection seat equipped aircraft. The Prefect has static seats. As for the rather lovely PC21, this seems to be working well for a number of nations, etc, can even be flown in standard UK pilot flight equipment/Survival Equipment. Perhaps too much aircraft (£££) for the role?
The PC 21 pictured looks to only have MDC for the front seater; what does the back seater do?
Originally Posted by Stitchbitch 
chopper2004 The T6 has ejection seats, however it uses the US style man mounted torso harness, rather than the traditional M-B style combined harness found on all current RAF ejection seat equipped aircraft. The Prefect has static seats. As for the rather lovely PC21, this seems to be working well for a number of nations, etc, can even be flown in standard UK pilot flight equipment/Survival Equipment. Perhaps too much aircraft (£££) for the role?
chopper2004 The T6 has ejection seats, however it uses the US style man mounted torso harness, rather than the traditional M-B style combined harness found on all current RAF ejection seat equipped aircraft. The Prefect has static seats. As for the rather lovely PC21, this seems to be working well for a number of nations, etc, can even be flown in standard UK pilot flight equipment/Survival Equipment. Perhaps too much aircraft (£££) for the role?
Originally posted by Chevvron
The Prefect DOES have ejector seats; Martin Baker Mk 17.
The PC 21 pictured looks to only have MDC for the front seater; what does the back seater do?
The Prefect DOES have ejector seats; Martin Baker Mk 17.
The PC 21 pictured looks to only have MDC for the front seater; what does the back seater do?
To answer your question, there is some MDC over the rear seat of the Texan
CAEBr
Last edited by CAEBr; 19th Oct 2019 at 20:46. Reason: clarification of quotes
The PC-21 rear cockpit ejection seat has breakers which shatter the canopy as the seat
travels up the rail. The front cockpit needs MDC because it is thickened for bird strike protection.
As an aside, the PC-21 MDC system is called Canopy Fracturing System or CFS!
travels up the rail. The front cockpit needs MDC because it is thickened for bird strike protection.
As an aside, the PC-21 MDC system is called Canopy Fracturing System or CFS!
274 BFJT on BBC Inside Out , 21 October , 19:30
Monday 21 October : BBC Inside Out (Yorkshire and Lincolnshire) 19:30 hrs .
A feature on the Tucano bowing out of RAF service and the last BFJT course to go through Linton ;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0009prw .
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A feature on the Tucano bowing out of RAF service and the last BFJT course to go through Linton ;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0009prw .
and
BBC Regional TV
For those with Sky TV, (and who don't live in the Yorkshire area) BBC Regional programs can be found in the channel range 951 to 972. Yorkshire and Lincolnshire is at 957.
The only caveat is that do have a Sky card but don't pay a subscription. Hope it helps
XN593
The only caveat is that do have a Sky card but don't pay a subscription. Hope it helps
XN593
Given where the Tucano was assembled, some clown in the MoD decided, in all seriousness, that each ac should be searched for IEDs post delivery. It took a lot of convincing that any search, particularly post flight, was a non starter. The plan was quietly dropped. I will miss watching a pair of Tucanos pass over my house; I used to wonder where the students would end
up. As an aside, there was a study to install the Mk 8LC seat into the Canberra PR9 and T4 - too difficult, too expensive.
up. As an aside, there was a study to install the Mk 8LC seat into the Canberra PR9 and T4 - too difficult, too expensive.
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All deliveries of new aircraft from the factory to Church Fenton were parked for a day on the far side of the airfield just in case they should explode having been rigged with explosives. I assume it was believed that 24hrs was the longest fuse likely to be used as the IRA might believe that the aircraft would have had a thorough inspection in that time & any device discovered and disarmed. I don’t recall that any did explode.
I cannot see the reason for the RTP programme, unless the MoD is hopeful of flogging a LOT of spares to Kuwait and/or Kenya for their Tucanos.
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Hi all knowledgable peeps, this image popped up a group on FB. Someone asked what was the significance of the different colours. My thoughts were that one was for sqn pilots and the other for CFS but am not sure now. It looks like the red ones have a plaque that says OC 207 but it is hard to see. Can anyone enlighten me please.
