Defence under a Corbyn Government
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It is surprising that Corbyn generates so much visceral antipathy. He's kept Labor together, no mean feat and he's been more right than most in his rejection of Mid East adventures. Plus his stance on Brexit seems more reasonable than that of the current Government.
Why is he considered as a bogeyman?
Why is he considered as a bogeyman?
It is surprising that Corbyn generates so much visceral antipathy. He's kept Labor together, no mean feat and he's been more right than most in his rejection of Mid East adventures. Plus his stance on Brexit seems more reasonable than that of the current Government.
Why is he considered as a bogeyman?
Why is he considered as a bogeyman?
Rejection of Mid East adventures. By the West, for sure. No problem if it's Russia.
His stance on Brexit has been duplicitous at best. He has tried to have it both ways, and his reluctance to come down off the fence makes him as responsible as anyone for the mess we are in now.
All of that said, I would still vote for him over the current Tory cabal. Strange times.
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Would trust him as far as I could throw him, but would still vote for him over Johnson (rather, the extremists Johnson has surrounded himself with).
If Labour selected Hilary Benn as leader, they would get a lot more support from those who are utterly fed up with the dictatorial antics of Johnson, the current government and its right-wing ERG gang...
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Yep, ditto Kenneth Clarke. The structures of both major parties seem to encourage leaders from either end of the political spectrum; I wonder whether it's because those of us in the middle ground, who might countenance voting for either party if the leadership and policies were right, don't tend to join those parties and therefore can't influence their leadership.
It used to be the case that political parties were considered to be so close to centre that it didn't really matter that much who was in power. These days, it seems that the Tories and Labour are polarising to the extremes of the spectrum.
It doesn't bode well if compromise is required to deliver a solution to this morass, not to mention the potential for more direct action.
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It doesn't bode well if compromise is required to deliver a solution to this morass, not to mention the potential for more direct action.
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Yep, ditto Kenneth Clarke. The structures of both major parties seem to encourage leaders from either end of the political spectrum; I wonder whether it's because those of us in the middle ground, who might countenance voting for either party if the leadership and policies were right, don't tend to join those parties and therefore can't influence their leadership.
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I predict that if elected PM, Corbyn will quickly be assassinated by someone who can be visibly pinged as 'pro-Brexit' thus conveniently solving two establishment issues for the price of one.
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I have heard Corbyn described as many things in recent times, excellent tactician isn’t however, one of them.
His approach is one of the student debating Society and is naive. His strength is in campaigning not leading or governing. Just look at the current outrage over the planned proroguation of Parliament. Corbyn has had how long to call a no confidence vote in Johnson, but he fluffed it. Not only did he fluff it, he telegraphed his intent ahead of time before then holding back for the perfect moment. Johnson’s circus must have been laughing all the way to Balmoral to speak to the Queen. They didn’t need intelligence, Corbyn told them what he was thinking and then waffled.
For me, Corbyn is the puppet. McDonnell and Momentum are the real puppet masters and the threat to Defence and the nation’s security. Should Corbyn ever be elected (and I’m with Vin Rouge here in thinking the Tories are currently in a hard right / populist echo chamber which may or may not reflect as much of he electorate as they imagine) I think we’ll find him being sidelined by his own people to press home the full extent of Marxist Government they want.
Safe to say the montage was laughable, and then the video of the Para's shooting range with photo of his goodself kind of upset him. The tabloids were up in arms as they played on the fear emerging from the murder of the female MP Jo with the shooting practice.
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Corbyn & Defence? What 4kin defence?
Mark these wise words from Melchett01
"For me, Corbyn is the puppet. McDonnell and Momentum are the real puppet masters and the threat to Defence and the nation’s security. Should Corbyn ever be elected (and I’m with Vin Rouge here in thinking the Tories are currently in a hard right / populist echo chamber which may or may not reflect as much of he electorate as they imagine) I think we’ll find him being sidelined by his own people to press home the full extent of Marxist Government they want."
Mark these wise words from Melchett01
"For me, Corbyn is the puppet. McDonnell and Momentum are the real puppet masters and the threat to Defence and the nation’s security. Should Corbyn ever be elected (and I’m with Vin Rouge here in thinking the Tories are currently in a hard right / populist echo chamber which may or may not reflect as much of he electorate as they imagine) I think we’ll find him being sidelined by his own people to press home the full extent of Marxist Government they want."
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If you really want to see Corbyn in his element, then simply lift a manhole cover over a sewer in London and peer inside.
You will also see certain Tory MPs at the same time.
Hammond even looks like a rat.
You will also see certain Tory MPs at the same time.
Hammond even looks like a rat.
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Your lot getting their backsides handed to them in the house tonight. The 0.3% who voted in Boris don’t represent us. His bully boy tactics, together with those of Gollum his senior adviser, are a disgrace. Gollum isn’t even a Tory party member. They are now paying the price.