Heads Up! Fighter Pilot: The Real Top Gun
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Yet again you show youself up to be a total pillock.
As it happens I was a qualified CSRO so I know quite a bit about SERE. Generally speaking the girls were better than the boys at E & E, certainly at Camouflage and Concealment. In terms of R2I / CAC that's dependent upon personality and has damn all to do with one's sex.
SERE has **** all to do with being Infantry.
As it happens I was a qualified CSRO so I know quite a bit about SERE. Generally speaking the girls were better than the boys at E & E, certainly at Camouflage and Concealment. In terms of R2I / CAC that's dependent upon personality and has damn all to do with one's sex.
SERE has **** all to do with being Infantry.
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AAR dangerous ?
I once had to stay plugged in for 35 minutes at 33,000ft in thick cloud.
Tiring yes - dangerous certainly not - and it was in a real Lightning.
...hat...coat...door...
I once had to stay plugged in for 35 minutes at 33,000ft in thick cloud.
Tiring yes - dangerous certainly not - and it was in a real Lightning.
...hat...coat...door...
Just thinking back to last night's episode, I think I remember there being five pictures on the role disposal board - other than Lightning and Typhoon I'm guessing Hawk and Texan creamie and 100 Sqn? But casting my memory back to the last (BBC?) series about Valley (Combat Pilot?), wasn't the favourite option for singlies a posting to Cold Lake for tactics and weapons training on the Hawk? In other words, was role disposal previously done between AFT and TWU, before a syllabus change? More to the point, I'm sure in that series a thumbs down meant starting the 'ceremony' again, including downing in one, which could get very messy if the powers-that-be saw a very different future in your stars. 
Underbolt
What you saw on the BBC Combat Pilot Programme was a ‘Creaming and Streaming’. That used to happen after AFT. Nowadays everyone moves from AFT straight to TW (standby for ENJPPT to reappear) so the C and S is redundant.
The role disposal has always happened after TW. The game is at the discretion of the graduates or their course commander or both. The only constant is that alcohol will be involved and someone will get spoofed at some point.
BV
The role disposal has always happened after TW. The game is at the discretion of the graduates or their course commander or both. The only constant is that alcohol will be involved and someone will get spoofed at some point.
BV
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That was a good series.
Im not sure I understand the RN lady going to a typhoon and the RAF chap to an F35 off a carrier but ho hum I’m sure they’ll do well.
Those parties must be a bit dull now as there’s not many options.
the other thing that struck me was the valley instructors seemed either 25 .....or 60.....how old do they let you carry on pulling G or is it a yearly medical or something ?
Im not sure I understand the RN lady going to a typhoon and the RAF chap to an F35 off a carrier but ho hum I’m sure they’ll do well.
Those parties must be a bit dull now as there’s not many options.
the other thing that struck me was the valley instructors seemed either 25 .....or 60.....how old do they let you carry on pulling G or is it a yearly medical or something ?
Well.....if you want to be picky, the English Electric Lightning was the Lightning II as the Lockheed P38 Lightning was Lightning ‘I’ for the RAF....
However the (US designation F35) is just known as ‘Lightning’ in RAF service, presumably Lightning GR1, or FA1?
I've only just managed to see it, having been watching the Johnson ar$e-kicking events for much of the last 2 days. But what an excellent last programme in the series!
Typhoon or F-35B....what a choice!
Typhoon or F-35B....what a choice!
Meester
The twin engine vs single engine issue is a perennial argument.
I remember posting a link on another thread about it a while ago. The thrust of which (you see what I did there?!) was that the USAF had conducted a study of aircraft losses due to engine failure between F15 and F16. Guess which had more losses? Answer: F15.
The reason given is that if an engine were to fail catastrophically it will most likely destroy the other engine and probably the airframe with it. Two engines means twice the chance of failure.
In this day and age, engine reliability is so good (and the F35 engine is a serious bit of kit) that statistics will show that you can rely sufficiently on one engine to keep you safe.
Typhoon is an awesome aircraft in every respect and is getting better all the time. F35 is also an awesome aircraft but their roles are subtly different. If I were a student at Valley I would be delighted to be sent to either aircraft. As things stand right now though, given a choice I would take F35 purely because it’s the new kid on the block.
BV
I remember posting a link on another thread about it a while ago. The thrust of which (you see what I did there?!) was that the USAF had conducted a study of aircraft losses due to engine failure between F15 and F16. Guess which had more losses? Answer: F15.
The reason given is that if an engine were to fail catastrophically it will most likely destroy the other engine and probably the airframe with it. Two engines means twice the chance of failure.
In this day and age, engine reliability is so good (and the F35 engine is a serious bit of kit) that statistics will show that you can rely sufficiently on one engine to keep you safe.
Typhoon is an awesome aircraft in every respect and is getting better all the time. F35 is also an awesome aircraft but their roles are subtly different. If I were a student at Valley I would be delighted to be sent to either aircraft. As things stand right now though, given a choice I would take F35 purely because it’s the new kid on the block.
BV
I've never seen any official source refer to the F-35B in RAF/FAA service with any "mark number". The RAF website (never a reliable source for official designations anyway) calls it the "F-35B Lightning"; the RN website calls it the "F-35 Lightning". Note the "II" seems to have gone missing over the Pond, but strangely not the "F-35".
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