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Old 4th Aug 2019, 15:32
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Originally Posted by ExAscoteer
It would appear then, that QR 206 is in error since it fails to mention in Para b the badge for Air Quartermater (QM).
There must surely be a few LMs, AEs and Es still serving too; and my understanding is that they are still entitled to wear the 'original' badge if they choose to?

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edit... Ah Golf, still not reading the whole thread eh?
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 15:43
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Originally Posted by Timelord
Do you not think that the uniform symbolises something important, and that it should be accorded respect? A squadron standard or regimental colour is just “a bit of embroidery “ but is accorded such reverence that even the Monarch bows to it.

Never seen her bow to a badge though. And isn't any bow she gives to a colour a simple acknowledgement?

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Old 4th Aug 2019, 15:57
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Originally Posted by ExAscoteer
It would appear then, that QR 206 is in error since it fails to mention in Para b the badge for Air Quartermater (QM).
As is the Remotely Piloted Air System (Pilot) RPAS(P) Flying Badge that was dropped on 1 Apr 19. However, there has been a whole bunch of errors with respect Flying Badges if you read Wg Cdr (Rtd) ‘Jeff’ Jefford’s excellent book on the subject of Observers and Navigators. However, it was never “The RAF Flying Badge” as BEagle has insisted, which was my point.

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Old 4th Aug 2019, 16:39
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Surely flying passengers with no pilots licence (Mr Tierney) is very considerably more serious than wearing an inappropriate jacket. Conflating the two shows a major loss of perspective?
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Best flying jacket I got was from European Air Transport (DHL), made in Paris, black leather with a zipped in quilted liner for cold weather and sporting a fur collar.

Luxury. When I think of my old RAF Aircrew Clothing (prior to such innovations as GoreTex), it wicked more liquid than Pampers do . . .

That jacket looks like something you'd buy in Miller Brothers . . .
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 20:08
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Is there a useful comparator here in rugby shirts? Do the fifteen (or so) chaps who trot out at Twickenham take umbrage at the thousands of folk wearing ‘their’ strip when only they have ‘earned it’.
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I understand the umbrage. Aren’t these lot the ones that come up with hideous flying Scotsman clocks etc.

But aviation has always attracted Walts. The funniest I’ve encountered in the last few years was a passenger who said he brought a 737 for fun flying .....that’s an oxymoron surely.

However if anyone’s got a typhoon hat I’ll have it as that thing rocks...
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 18:14
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Originally Posted by Meester proach
I understand the umbrage. Aren’t these lot the ones that come up with hideous flying Scotsman clocks etc.

But aviation has always attracted Walts. The funniest I’ve encountered in the last few years was a passenger who said he brought a 737 for fun flying .....that’s an oxymoron surely.

However if anyone’s got a typhoon hat I’ll have it as that thing rocks...
Oh yes, proper sh!te...the nose wheel on the Lancaster is just the start!





A snip at £149.95. https://www.bradford.co.uk/dambusterssculptclock.html

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Old 5th Aug 2019, 18:37
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Isn't that Kilroy- Silk standing by the Lancaster?
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 19:16
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Must be quite a squeeze when all 7 crew are onboard!
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 19:37
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It also depends how it is worn. As TTN said, some are clearly Walts. Some re-reactors are both realistic and credible, other ludicrous. I saw a MRAF in the wrong jacket and modern rank ribbon.

As Tartare said, he wears a selection of badges in the wrong place.

The problem arises when one is credible and in the right place. When you talk to them though you soon find they are fake.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 09:17
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Must be quite a squeeze when all 7 crew are onboard!
No mid upper turret, after all it is a Dambuster aircraft, at least they got that fact right, Airfix didn't, they issued the Dambuster kit with an upper turret then had to send out turretless fuselages to buyers


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Old 6th Aug 2019, 09:37
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The outrage about wrongly worn badges also extends to submariners in the Royal Navy. The 'dolphin' badge awarded to those who have qualified as such is highly regarded in the RN, as its a long and arduous process to earn one. Some, though not all, get quite upset when its worn as by those not entitled, even as jewellery. However, I am told that, in real life, the RN does sell extra ones to any submariner, and many of which end up being worn by wives and girlfriends, as they are quite decorative. I seem to remember the Duchess of Cambridge has been seen wearing one.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 09:55
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Ref the dog, I think the 'non pc' hound is on the other side of the hangar doors!
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Corporal Clott, I fear you are wrong. The stamp in my first Royal Air Force Pilots Flying Log Book is, "THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT W.W.YVERN IS QUALIFIED TO WEAR THE ROYAL AIR FORCE FLYING BADGE w.e.f. 14th DECEMBER 1959". Yes, it was in capitals.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 11:07
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Mine says "...has qualified as a navigator...". No mention of a flying badge (1970). Nicely handwritten in script, I think the wording must have been a local choice.
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Ah, but the marketing strategy behind this is, it is so bad, it's good.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 11:28
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Ah, but the marketing strategy behind this is, it is so bad, it's good.
Is that a Facsimile of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch hanging beneath?
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At the end of the day, I would pay a bit more money and buy an A2.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 13:10
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
Mine says "...has qualified as a navigator...". No mention of a flying badge (1970). Nicely handwritten in script, I think the wording must have been a local choice.
Same here 7 years earlier; would not call it 'nicely'.
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