Interesting KC-46 approach at Paris
This is pprune....the aircraft and pilots are American....ergo a major disaster was barely averted by divine intervention!
Had it been an American aircraft but flown by some Brits in the RAF there would not have been a peep heard.
Of course there would have been lots of comments....but all suggesting what grand flying it was and proving the proper way to do it.
Hoskins, Bloggs, and Carruthers are simply based upon some myth.
Had it been an American aircraft but flown by some Brits in the RAF there would not have been a peep heard.
Of course there would have been lots of comments....but all suggesting what grand flying it was and proving the proper way to do it.
Hoskins, Bloggs, and Carruthers are simply based upon some myth.
Had it been an American aircraft but flown by some Brits in the RAF there would not have been a peep heard.
parabellum , you must be confusing me with someone else! I neither directly work for Airbus nor do I fly around the world extolling the benefits of the A330MRTT. But from what I've seen, it does that for itself anyway!
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I'm not aircrew.
Is there really a problem with this landing. Presumably there are no passengers on board so that's not an issue. What about stress to the airframe?
Is there really a problem with this landing. Presumably there are no passengers on board so that's not an issue. What about stress to the airframe?
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Cameras and mil Tx---hmmmm
Local News | Mishap On Keiko Flight Investigated -- Landing-Gear Repair Could Cost $1 Million | Seattle Times Newspaper
The video of the mishap does not come up during a search...which is a pity as, from memory, it is quite err dramatic ..
Local News | Mishap On Keiko Flight Investigated -- Landing-Gear Repair Could Cost $1 Million | Seattle Times Newspaper
The video of the mishap does not come up during a search...which is a pity as, from memory, it is quite err dramatic ..
Beags.....different situation and different outcome.
But....one very broken aircraft.
Hard landing in C-130J
But....one very broken aircraft.
Hard landing in C-130J
Nationality doesn't come into it - it was a poorly executed approach.
As has been explained, it wasn't part of the "show", hence one can suggest that it wasn't the "planned" outcome.
The divergence through the centreline, the touchdown right of centreline and the late point of touchdown just point to it being a balls up.
IF they'd managed to pull it off WITHOUT flying through the centreline, and landing on the centreline in the touchdown zone, it would've looked great!
But they didn't...
As has been explained, it wasn't part of the "show", hence one can suggest that it wasn't the "planned" outcome.
The divergence through the centreline, the touchdown right of centreline and the late point of touchdown just point to it being a balls up.
IF they'd managed to pull it off WITHOUT flying through the centreline, and landing on the centreline in the touchdown zone, it would've looked great!
But they didn't...
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Is that because it was multi crew? Never flown with anyone else before but I’m assuming that as captain you look after flight controls, power, fuel management, stores management, lookout, RT, navigation, systems, rules etc and possibly use other crew members for line up and touchdown point advice - or do they do something else?
I was thinking that if you didn’t delegate either of these things you could have a crew member watching the end of the port wing for you?
I was thinking that if you didn’t delegate either of these things you could have a crew member watching the end of the port wing for you?
I’m with SAS and F16 on this, nothing particularly bad about that approach. Possibly a last minute runway change, maybe got caught out by the wind in the final turn, but nicely recovered and landed OK. We are supposed to be military pilots, capable of taking our aircraft to the edge. I’ve seen lots of medium/large RAF aircraft do similar without a need to go around.
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Really, Roly old mate? Not in your VC10K time, I trust.... Landing half way down the runway, well off the centreline, after a lousy approach.
At least no-one was injured - apart from Boeing's reputation, no doubt.
How's it going with you these days?
I’ve seen lots of medium/large RAF aircraft do similar without a need to go around.
At least no-one was injured - apart from Boeing's reputation, no doubt.
How's it going with you these days?
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No crash trucks called out....no maintenance crews flown in...no unusual ground support equipment required....no tarps covering up any part of the aircraft......what is the big deal here folks?
Nobody has commented on the angle from where the video was taken! I think it makes it look much worse than it actually was! I can see little wrong with it. Would never happen in normal operation but maybe he was practicing for his display? I’d give the guys a break!
Judging by the comments here about a pilot who converted a less than ideal approach into a landing maybe the beancounters are right.
'Today's pilots are just system operators and should be paid as such.'
'Today's pilots are just system operators and should be paid as such.'
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From the taxiway behind the plane, you can see this is more than half a mile down the runway, and clearly way off the runway centerline (the white marks).
In "civil" aviation and most Western Air Forces, this is considered a poorly misjudged approach and landing, and should have required a timely "go around".
