Two-star fired from running top secret program office
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Two-star fired from running top secret program office
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Two-star fired from running top secret program office; under multiple IG investigations
A groundbreaking female fighter pilot was fired from her current job as director of the Defense Department’s Special Access Programs Central Office — which manages and oversees some of the military’s most secretive classified programs — and is under several inspector general investigations.
Maj. Gen. Dawn Dunlop is no longer running SAPCO, and is now serving as a special assistant to Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Seve Wilson, DoD spokesman Lt. Col. Mike Andrews confirmed in an emailed statement to Air Force Times, .Air Force Times has also learned from a knowledgeable source that multiple ongoing IG investigations convinced Pentagon leadership that Dunlop needed to be removed. Dunlop also may be considering retirement.
It is not apparent exactly what Dunlop is being investigated for, and she was not available for comment by press time. But another source with knowledge of the office, who asked not to be identified, said Dunlop fostered a toxic work environment. Dunlop would call senior leaders from the services “idiots,” he said, and would directly call people from the Army and Air Force and scream at them on the phone.
The source said that things reached a boiling point May 31, when Dunlop lost her temper in a meeting with senior Air Force civilians. An Air Force civilian immediately told Ellen Lord, the Pentagon’s top acquisition official, about the situation in the office, the source said, and Lord walked over to the SAPCO office and removed Dunlop.
In a May 31 email obtained by Air Force Times, Lord told top Pentagon, Air Force and Army leaders — including Deputy Secretary of Defense David Norquist and Gen. Wilson — that she had made a change in the office. Army Col. Bruce Monroe is now taking on leadership roles in the office on a temporary basis, according to the email.
Special access programs are among the military’s most closely guarded secrets, and are classified at some of the highest levels of the U.S. government. The office Dunlop directed until recently managed and oversaw those programs........
The Air Force also fired another two-star general, Maj. Gen. Peter Gersten, from his leadership role days after Dunlop was removed. Gersten was relieved of command of the Air Force Warfare Center at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada June 2 over allegations of an unprofessional relationship.
Two-star fired from running top secret program office; under multiple IG investigations
A groundbreaking female fighter pilot was fired from her current job as director of the Defense Department’s Special Access Programs Central Office — which manages and oversees some of the military’s most secretive classified programs — and is under several inspector general investigations.
Maj. Gen. Dawn Dunlop is no longer running SAPCO, and is now serving as a special assistant to Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Seve Wilson, DoD spokesman Lt. Col. Mike Andrews confirmed in an emailed statement to Air Force Times, .Air Force Times has also learned from a knowledgeable source that multiple ongoing IG investigations convinced Pentagon leadership that Dunlop needed to be removed. Dunlop also may be considering retirement.
It is not apparent exactly what Dunlop is being investigated for, and she was not available for comment by press time. But another source with knowledge of the office, who asked not to be identified, said Dunlop fostered a toxic work environment. Dunlop would call senior leaders from the services “idiots,” he said, and would directly call people from the Army and Air Force and scream at them on the phone.
The source said that things reached a boiling point May 31, when Dunlop lost her temper in a meeting with senior Air Force civilians. An Air Force civilian immediately told Ellen Lord, the Pentagon’s top acquisition official, about the situation in the office, the source said, and Lord walked over to the SAPCO office and removed Dunlop.
In a May 31 email obtained by Air Force Times, Lord told top Pentagon, Air Force and Army leaders — including Deputy Secretary of Defense David Norquist and Gen. Wilson — that she had made a change in the office. Army Col. Bruce Monroe is now taking on leadership roles in the office on a temporary basis, according to the email.
Special access programs are among the military’s most closely guarded secrets, and are classified at some of the highest levels of the U.S. government. The office Dunlop directed until recently managed and oversaw those programs........
The Air Force also fired another two-star general, Maj. Gen. Peter Gersten, from his leadership role days after Dunlop was removed. Gersten was relieved of command of the Air Force Warfare Center at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada June 2 over allegations of an unprofessional relationship.
Whoa, whoa, whoa wait a minute.
Are you trying to tell me that, despite what we’ve been repeatedly told in the media in recent years about how women make better, more compassionate managers and leaders that it is possible, after all, that both genders are in fact prone to similar personality weaknesses?
Are you really suggesting that we shouldn’t try to generalise based on gender and that to make sweeping statements about the strengths and weaknesses of either gender would be unfounded?
I may have to change my entire belief system based on this new information.
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Is there anybody that will read this that will require me to point out that I am being heavily sarcastic? You would think not but past experience on this forum has convinced me otherwise.
Are you really suggesting that we shouldn’t try to generalise based on gender and that to make sweeping statements about the strengths and weaknesses of either gender would be unfounded?
I may have to change my entire belief system based on this new information.
BV
Is there anybody that will read this that will require me to point out that I am being heavily sarcastic? You would think not but past experience on this forum has convinced me otherwise.
Dunlop would call senior leaders from the services “idiots,” he said
Excellent, an officer with a keen and accurate assessment of VSOs
and would directly call people from the Army and Air Force and scream at them on the phone.
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Looks like the DoD is on a roll......
https://apnews.com/634475c4ed884305bbf7ffdd3f298b9d
APNewsBreak: Naval War College head reassigned pending probe
https://apnews.com/634475c4ed884305bbf7ffdd3f298b9d
APNewsBreak: Naval War College head reassigned pending probe
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All this will please a few 1*s 
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Back in the UK...who will be held accountable for the dog’s dinner that’s MFTS? One ex AOC22 Gp who has been evangelical about it two years ago, and was in position to effect change has just got to 3*...
why are you trying to switch the conversation to something completely unrelated to the thread?
Senior officer accountability? That seems to be one thing that the US forces get right; poor performers and those running poor-performing organisations do get moved on or sacked without delay, it appears.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/15/us/pr...rnd/index.html
US Naval War College gets its 1st woman president, Rear Adm. Shoshana Chatfield
CNN)A rear admiral who began her career as a helicopter pilot has been named the next president of the US Naval War College, the first woman to fill that role, the secretary of the Navy announced Friday.
Rear Adm. Shoshana Chatfield serves as a commander of the Joint Region Marianas in Guam and previously served as a Provincial Reconstruction Team commander in Afghanistan, the US Navy said in a statement.......
Chatfield will take over for Rear Adm. Jeffery Harley, who was reassigned June 9 "pending the final report of an ongoing Inspector General investigation," the Navy said.
Harley would not discuss the investigation, the Associated Press reported last week. “All the decisions questioned in the allegations were subject to legal review either before or after the fact, and I believe that all of my decisions are within my authorities," Harley wrote in a campuswide email, the AP reported.......
US Naval War College gets its 1st woman president, Rear Adm. Shoshana Chatfield
CNN)A rear admiral who began her career as a helicopter pilot has been named the next president of the US Naval War College, the first woman to fill that role, the secretary of the Navy announced Friday.
Rear Adm. Shoshana Chatfield serves as a commander of the Joint Region Marianas in Guam and previously served as a Provincial Reconstruction Team commander in Afghanistan, the US Navy said in a statement.......
Chatfield will take over for Rear Adm. Jeffery Harley, who was reassigned June 9 "pending the final report of an ongoing Inspector General investigation," the Navy said.
Harley would not discuss the investigation, the Associated Press reported last week. “All the decisions questioned in the allegations were subject to legal review either before or after the fact, and I believe that all of my decisions are within my authorities," Harley wrote in a campuswide email, the AP reported.......
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As a kid growing up, I watched my next door-but-one's two older than me lads out training hard every day before joining the Army. . IIRC, both joined the Paras and I know one became CO of (2?) Para .. and had a very simple take on life and leadership: "If I can't physically do something then I won't ask [order] my men to do that". Again, IIRC, both of those gentlemen ended up as at least 1*s.
Sod them though, I used to lust after their sister who occasionally babysat for us
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Maj. Gen. Dunlop created toxic environment in top secret program office, IG finds
Maj. Gen. Dunlop created toxic environment in top secret program office, IG finds
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The point of attention here is interesting, I think.
It's the winter tires and oil changing story that would have got managers sacked at most companies I know.
In the air force, it seems only a secondary matter.
It's the winter tires and oil changing story that would have got managers sacked at most companies I know.
In the air force, it seems only a secondary matter.
The contrast between Air Force Times (ie USAF news) and RAF News is that the first is independent of the USAF, while the second comes under the MOD and is the official newspaper of the RAF. Which is better for morale, a story that reveals that bullying and incompetent VSOs are dealt with accordingly, or no such stories at all? Here are their respective About site pages :-
https://www.airforcetimes.com/about-us/
https://www.rafnews.co.uk/about
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She sounds absolutely dreadful - with no idea how to lead.
Arrogance ain't confined to the male gender.
Chair of the Board at the old place I used to work delighted in unnecessarily terrifying people.
She was a former McKinsey consultant who loved the fact that her Armani suit was `intimidating' - that's a direct quote.
And she was utterly mediocre...
Arrogance ain't confined to the male gender.
Chair of the Board at the old place I used to work delighted in unnecessarily terrifying people.
She was a former McKinsey consultant who loved the fact that her Armani suit was `intimidating' - that's a direct quote.
And she was utterly mediocre...
I preface this by saying that on balance my female bosses have been better than the male ones, so I have no axe to grind based on the sex of the individual this story relates to - that may not be true of the algorithm that proposed other stories of interest.
A similar story from last year was suggested.
I am probably being naïve but what I find odd is that these individuals are moved on rather than at least demoted or made to retire. To an outsider there seems to be an alleged element of theft or fraud which should be put before a court. My understanding is that under UK service law, those lower down the command chain could find themselves on an enforced stay at HM's Holiday Camp, Colchester for a severe enough offence of "Bullying or mistreating a subordinate", does the US not take a similarly dim view? 
The alleged effects on later senior RN officers of the execution of Admiral Byng comes to mind. IMHO until an individual guilty of fostering a toxic work/command environment is severely punished there is a risk of a degree of toxicity being seen as a tacitly approved.
A similar story from last year was suggested.
From Airforce Times 31MAY2019
FSOC one-star falsely claimed flying hours, disrespected subordinates, IG found
Brig. Gen. Brenda Cartier, now the director of operations at Air Force Special Operations Command headquarters at Hurlburt Field, Florida, received a letter of counseling after an inspector general investigation found she failed to treat subordinates with dignity and respect in her previous position, and falsely claimed flight hours on an MC-130J in 2017.
The March 2019 report, which the Air Force provided at Air Force Times’ request, also found that Cartier received $250 in flying incentive pay as a result of the flight hours she improperly claimed in July 2017. The IG report reviewed allegations about Cartier’s actions while she was a colonel, in command of Air Education and Training Command’s 58th Special Operations Wing at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico.
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The IG began investigating Cartier in August 2018, after members of the 58th filed complaints that she had created a toxic command climate and falsely claimed flight hours for pay, among other allegations, the report said.
FSOC one-star falsely claimed flying hours, disrespected subordinates, IG found
Brig. Gen. Brenda Cartier, now the director of operations at Air Force Special Operations Command headquarters at Hurlburt Field, Florida, received a letter of counseling after an inspector general investigation found she failed to treat subordinates with dignity and respect in her previous position, and falsely claimed flight hours on an MC-130J in 2017.
The March 2019 report, which the Air Force provided at Air Force Times’ request, also found that Cartier received $250 in flying incentive pay as a result of the flight hours she improperly claimed in July 2017. The IG report reviewed allegations about Cartier’s actions while she was a colonel, in command of Air Education and Training Command’s 58th Special Operations Wing at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico.
(...)
The IG began investigating Cartier in August 2018, after members of the 58th filed complaints that she had created a toxic command climate and falsely claimed flight hours for pay, among other allegations, the report said.
The alleged effects on later senior RN officers of the execution of Admiral Byng comes to mind. IMHO until an individual guilty of fostering a toxic work/command environment is severely punished there is a risk of a degree of toxicity being seen as a tacitly approved.
SLXOwft :-
A very salutary point. All are equal before the law, but some it seems are more equal than others before military law, particularly UK Military Law. Offences of issuing illegal orders by RAF VSOs under Air Force Law, rather than being investigated when reported (a duty of all ranks under military law), have been the subject of continuous cover-up since for more than thirty years. Those who defied these orders were hounded, persecuted, and dismissed. Ministerial opinion was issued that issuing such an order was correct, and disobeying it was a punishable offence. The order was to sign off aircraft and systems as airworthy, IAW the regulations, when they were not. The aircraft and systems concerned feature in some half dozen fatal accident threads on this very forum. Rather makes fiddling your flying hours pale into insignificance, I would have thought?
My understanding is that under UK service law, those lower down the command chain could find themselves on an enforced stay at HM's Holiday Camp, Colchester for a severe enough offence of "Bullying or mistreating a subordinate", does the US not take a similarly dim view?