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Old 18th Aug 2020, 15:49
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I can say from personal observation that the American General Officer/Flag Officer world is utterly ruthless. General Officers get tours cut short or forced retirement on a regular basis in all branches. However I smell a rat here. There are very few female General Officers in the US military and I wonder if there are other agendas at work here.

The one profound difference I see is that the tolerance for abusive leaders is much lower than it used to be, Most commands now require all ranks surveys of job satisfaction and commands have been cut short and careers stalled for senior personnel who were bad leaders.

As for women, I can echo a previous poster. Pretty much all of the women I have worked for and with in and out uniform have been very good, with 2 in particular who where outstanding, one who was hands down the best boss I ever had.

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Old 18th Aug 2020, 20:16
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To finish up the arrival interview my sqn cdr told me he is inclined to shout at people. As tactfully as I could - this was the start of a new tour - I replied that I had always managed to get things done without shouting and furthermore I would not be shouted at - by anybody. He nearly fell off his chair, but I made my mark and we got on well. It was an interesting time together, he was one of those eng officers who could tell you the volume of a jam jar but needed help to remove the lid.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 20:32
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If you feel you have to throw your weight around like that as a 2* you should never have been a 2*. That's the sort of behavior you would expect from a passed over SNCO or O-5, not a General. As mentioned above, truly bizarre that they all get moved sideways and not ****-canned. She will never be able to command respect with that reputation, assuming she was once able to do that.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 20:48
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Originally Posted by Two's in
If you feel you have to throw your weight around like that as a 2* you should never have been a 2*. That's the sort of behavior you would expect from a passed over SNCO or O-5, not a General. As mentioned above, truly bizarre that they all get moved sideways and not ****-canned. She will never be able to command respect with that reputation, assuming she was once able to do that.
Agree. What’s curious is that she felt she could get away with it. Many in similar positions of authority have been binned for creating/allowing a toxic command climate, that had to be known to her.

Ego perhaps overrode all else.
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 07:59
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As always the Greeks had a word for it. Hubris. Prevalent in many occupations but especially so in politicians.
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 15:01
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Originally Posted by Two's in
If you feel you have to throw your weight around like that as a 2* you should never have been a 2*. That's the sort of behavior you would expect from a passed over SNCO or O-5, not a General. As mentioned above, truly bizarre that they all get moved sideways and not ****-canned. She will never be able to command respect with that reputation, assuming she was once able to do that.
Having been both sides of the curtain, it is a behaviour exhibited more amongst the commissioned.
’Crabs in a barrel’,is an apposite term, as a descriptor for RAF officers,most would literally climb over anyone!
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 07:41
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https://www.military.com/daily-news/...me-1-star.html
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 22:19
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Agree. What’s curious is that she felt she could get away with it. Many in similar positions of authority have been binned for creating/allowing a toxic command climate, that had to be known to her.

Ego perhaps overrode all else.
https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/th...h-army.300916/ seems to suggest that the USAF is not the only service to suffer from tarnished stars.

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Old 21st Aug 2020, 05:59
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Some folks are put on a different career track to promote diversity and inclusivity.

The Air Force said this colonel was an incredibly toxic leader. Then she was promoted to one-star general

JEFF SCHOGOL

AUG 19, 2020 1:25 PM EDT

Air Force Brig. Gen. Jennifer Grant created the most toxic command climate that investigators had seen in decades when she oversaw the 50th Space Wing at Schriever Air Force Base, Colorado, according to a redacted copy of an Air Force Inspector General report.

A colonel at the time, Grant berated her subordinates both publicly and privately so frequently that the people under her command were terrified to give her any bad news, according to the October 2019 investigation, which was obtained by Task & Purpose.

Grant frequently reduced people to tears, caused many of her subordinates to leave, and one person whom she often clashed with later died by suicide.

“Witnesses, particularly Col. Grant's immediate staff, credibly described the environment as one in which Col. Grant failed in her responsibilities to pay attention to the welfare and morale of her subordinates, and failed to cultivate a climate of teamwork, cohesion, and trust,” investigators wrote. "Further, witnesses described failures in effective two-way communication and instances of a lack of self-control when engaging subordinates.”

Despite the investigation’s damning conclusions, Grant’s career has flourished. She was promoted to brigadier general on July 2 and is now assigned to Air Force headquarters at the Pentagon, said Air Force spokeswoman Ann Stefanek.Grant led the 50th Space Wing from June 30, 2017 to June 24, 2019. Investigators concluded that during that time, Grant repeatedly violated Air Force standards by lashing out at her subordinates, including:
  • Calling a subordinate in mental health treatment for suicidal ideations to criticize her for listing an enlisted service member on her safety plan, making the woman even more distraught.
  • Lecturing a subordinate at her promotion ceremony for not personally informing Grant that a brigadier general would be the presiding officer at the ceremony.
  • Berating her executive officer to the point that she crawled under her desk and cried.
  • Publicly humiliating a briefer in front of investigators.
  • Exploding at an enlisted airman for a get well card to the command chief before Grant could sign it.
“Col. Grant created an environment infused with fear and intimidation, which stilted communication and reporting, and undermined the welfare and morale of her subordinates,” the investigation said.

“In doing so, the AFSPC/IG [Air Force Space Command Inspector General] determined the conditions Col. Grant created were the worst the IG team had seen in 20 years.”
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-...ander-promoted
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 08:38
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
Some folks are put on a different career track to promote diversity and inclusivity.



https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-...ander-promoted
Peter principle of promotion, a couple of levels beyond their capability is well know.

Wonder what it should be called here ?

Sadly there are people who use the diversity / gender / racial badge as a way to obtain promotions, without having any capability behind it, then will use same badge to silence anybody who refuses to support their personal career path. The worst thing they do is to destroy the career paths of others, everybody remembers X who was here and totally incompetent. So people later get judged against someone elses incompetences rather than their own capabilities.

In businesss saw it first hand when doing a contract, Toxic Tracey had got to senior position by doing so, a new CEO, also female but from another division came in. Toxic Tracey tied the "we sisters to stand together" at a half yr team briefing. New CEO spoke about diversity and looking after people irrespective of gender, colour etc, then said people wanting to stand together based on anything need to have the work behind them first. Toxic Tracey became Tearful Tracey when she realised writing was on the wall, 1 month later Tracey was no more and her path to untold wealth via unfair dismissal case was over when her expenses showed what she was up to. Summary dismissal for fraud and a legal claim by company for repayment of money which was successful did wonders for morale.
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