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Dreadful Films: A Great Shame On Brave Men

Old 10th Jun 2019, 12:25
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Shameful treatment of our bravest allies.

73 years ago, the British Labour government, under pressure from Stalin, did not invite the Polish Armed Forces, who fought with the Allies, to the Victory Parade in London. The parade took place on 8 June 1946 to celebrate the victory over Germany during World War II.

Polish soldiers were one of the largest national formations fighting against Germany. More than 200,000 members of the Polish Armed Forces in the West had fought under British High Command. None of them has been invited to the Parade. Finally, after many complains and protests of a number of MPs and figures in the RAF, 25 pilots from the Polish Fighter Squadrons in the Royal Air Force, who fought in the Battle of Britain, got an invitation.

These last-minute invitations were declined in protest against the omission of the other branches of the Polish forces. Their efforts had not been recognised.

British government apologised in 2005 and Polish veterans took part in a British Victory Parade for the first time, 60 years after the war had ended.
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Indeed. At my home MoD workshop in the early 70s, we had numerous former Polish airmen and their sons. They were highly regarded and much loved. The city has a huge and sobering Polish war cemetery and we were each invited to any occasion. One chap had been within two weeks of qualifying as a doctor when his country was invaded. He became a pilot, survived unscathed but today he would be said to have PTSD. He gained employment at the workshop in 1946 and spent the rest of his career running the anodising plant. Visiting VSOs, mainly FOSNI, knew the score and always made a beeline for the plating shop.
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Old 10th Jun 2019, 14:15
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I still get irritated when the soundtrack of a turbine powered modern helicopter is that of a sixty year old, piston engined Bell 47. Similarly, when coming into the hover to land we hear the sound of an aircraft being shutdown from idle.

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Originally Posted by ve3id
"Bums in seats, mate, bums in seats", was what the producer said to A.J Chegwidden in the show 'JAG' when he complained about the technical errors in a film in which AJ was supposed to be technical adviser!
No wiser words were ever spoken. The movie industry is just that and indeed shares the same business model as Civil Aviation. Ever since Errol Flynn drove the Imperial Japanese Army out of Burma single handed, the agenda has been clear that the only detail that matters is that the War (any war?) was won by the USA.

BTW, I'm not familiar with JAG, but Wiki tells me that AJ is a fictional character. Presumably the producer was speaking to the actor who plays AJ, John M Jackson, or was this about a film within a film? In any case AJ is the kind of boss I myself would want :-

On more than one occasion Chegwidden put his career on the line to back his staff or to help them when they needed it. According to Harriet Sims, the Admiral went to his boss, the Secretary of the Navy, pleading in letter, citing legal precedent, why Bud Roberts should not be passed over for promotion (Roberts was no longer qualified for sea duty after losing a leg to a land mine while rescuing an Afghani boy who had wandered into a minefield). The usual result of being passed over for promotion three times is involuntary separation from the Navy (in Bud's case, forced retirement on medical grounds). Bud's promotion to Lieutenant Commander was duly made and administering the oath of office was what Chegwidden considered to be his last official act as Judge Advocate General
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Chegwidden

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Old 11th Jun 2019, 17:39
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The King's Choice - the sinking of the Blucher:


I think this is pretty good but on the IMDB someone points out that 'The rate of fire from the smaller guns on the Blücher is demonstrated to be around 500 rounds a minute; the cyclic rate of fire of the smallest mounted guns was only around 120 rounds a minute.'!!!!

Generally this is a good film on one aspect of the invasion of Norway, an unusual subject for most of us.
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