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UK orders Boeing E7...

Old 26th Apr 2019, 14:07
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News article in Air International states that 'Air International understands that the RAF variant will use one of the longer fuselage versions (of the 737), possibly the 737-800ERX" (same as P-8).
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 17:26
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Excellent! That'll be for the UK spec pie oven

How about RR engines & Smiths instruments ? No? OK, not this time.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 19:37
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Originally Posted by AnglianAV8R View Post
Excellent! That'll be for the UK spec pie oven
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And a big tea urn
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 15:04
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Originally Posted by Jerry Atrick View Post
Fallmonk, it seems only four E-3s are currently available for ops.
E-3D - Ops......ha!
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 16:29
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Originally Posted by TwoTunnels View Post
E-3D - Ops......ha!
Harsh banter!
B****y funny, but harsh nevertheless
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 19:54
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Originally Posted by TwoTunnels View Post
E-3D - Ops......ha!
Very harsh on the lads. The effort that has gone into getting that platform sorted is staggering, regardless of the outcome.

Itís done more than itís fair share over its time in service TT.... No different the Nimrod demise only this time, they wonít be waiting 10 years for an inferior replacement...!
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 21:33
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4?!? Even saying one is available for Ops would be somewhat optimistic...
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 17:46
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Originally Posted by Davef68 View Post
And a big tea urn
Best get that moved to the front, for emergencies...
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Four slot toaster?
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 07:19
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From a pedantic spotter PoV the "E-7" marketing name is annoying. The next in the official MDS sequence is actually E-12, but no US service has applied for that since none use this derivative.

Boeing should really have known that since the original E-7 was a 707 derivative, later redesignated EC-18B.
The E-7 designation for Wedgetail was nothing to do with Boeing, but came about from ideas and research within 2SQN RAAF. The original E-7 aircraft was a one-off experimental aircraft that never went into operational service, and hence, E-7 seemed a good choice. Approval was sought and gained from the US to use the designation officially, but by the time that approval was granted, we had bought 2000 Squadron Prints with the E-7A designation on it, and the name was in common use!

Y_G
Boeing's marketing name was/is E-737, for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted by Cows getting bigger View Post
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 12:57
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They are going for the long body, because they aren't going to mess this up. They are in for the long haul.

It is going to be a proper fit out, the full kit. They are already calling for tenders.


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Old 13th May 2019, 15:17
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In a letter to the defence select committee, Stuart Andrew, minister for defence procurement, states that only three of the aircraft will be new-build examples. “Boeing has sourced two 737NGs from the commercial market and secured a further three production slots on [its] Seattle production line in 2021 and 2022 to meet our needs,” he says.
Modification of the airframes is due to be performed by Marshall Aerospace in Cambridge.
Flight - RAF to get second-hand jets as part of Wedgetail buy
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Old 13th May 2019, 16:50
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Old 13th May 2019, 17:29
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That's funny, but you do know April 1st has been and gone?
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Old 13th May 2019, 18:45
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Of course they are going to be second hand, Boeing doesn't make the NG anymore.
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Old 13th May 2019, 19:50
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Of course they are going to be second hand, Boeing doesn't make the NG anymore.
Only 2 of them are going to be second hand, both with very few hours on them. The remaining 3 are being built from scratch.
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Old 13th May 2019, 21:40
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Of course they are going to be second hand, Boeing doesn't make the NG anymore.
Yes they do...
NG production will continue for the foreseeable future - just at a much lower rate than before.
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Old 14th May 2019, 07:29
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Modification of the airframes is due to be performed by Marshall Aerospace in Cambridge.
That should speed things up.....

Remember the ZD949 fiasco:

October 2006 - Marshall Aerospace is awarded a £22M contract to upgrade the RAF TriStars' avionics and FMS including a 'glass cockpit' as the 'MMR upgrade'. This should have been a relatively low-risk programme as it used elements of the C-130 cockpit upgrade already underway for the RNAF.

November 2007 - ZD949 arrives at Cambridge for the trial installation with a planned completion date of Q3 2008 at which time the second TriStar would begin conversion.

2008 came and went.

2009 came and went.

January 2010 - ZD949 finally makes its first flight with the MMR upgrade.

October 2010 - SDSR indicates that the TriStar will start to leave RAF service in 2013; TriStar MMR programme is to be discontinued.

December 2010 - After 100 hours of flight test, ZD949 finally passes MoD review and is due to be back in service in Spring 2011.

2011 - Due to the change in out-of-service date now planned for the TriStar and with the A330MRTT due in service by the end of the year, ZD949 remains at Cambridge in a pristine state under 'storage' and is to be 'reduced to spares' - a euphemism for being scrapped - as it would be too expensive to convert it back to its original state.

October 2011 - A330MRTT now 'Voyager' fails to meet release to service date; now expected to be 'sometime in January 2012'.

January 2012 - Voyager still not in service.

February 2012 - Voyager still not in service.

March 2013 - Voyager still not providing an AAR service; 3 x VC10 have to stagger on until Sep 2013.

September 2013 - VC10 retired, but Voyager still not providing a complete AAR service.

March 2014 - TriStar retired, but Voyager still not providing a complete AAR service.

May 2014 - ZD949 finally scrapped having never been returned to RAF service during a wasteful, expensive 7 year programme.

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