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Red Arrows to move from RAF Scampton to one of three sites

Old 19th Mar 2019, 15:57
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Red Arrows to move from RAF Scampton to one of three sites

According to MOD quoted by BBC News here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47617062

Red Arrows to move from RAF Scampton to one of three sites.
They are RAF Leeming in North Yorkshire, RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire and RAF Wittering in Cambridgeshire

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Old 19th Mar 2019, 16:31
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If Wittering is the chosen home I hope the lawyers are ready for the chap who lives in the big house on the extended centreline. He didn't like the Harriers so don't think he's going to be too happy with the Reds practising several times a day (plus the coloured smoke). Also, wonder how many crashes on the A1 they will cause...? Unless, of course, they are going to continue to rehearse at Scampton.
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Waddo is full.
Wittering, well, why?
Leeming? Ok, same model of Hawk? (Ready to be corrected). Makes sense. Therefore absolutely not.....

Topcliffe?
Thorney?
Little Riss ?

Suggestions on a postcard to...............
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Originally Posted by isaneng View Post
Waddo is full.
Wittering, well, why?
Leeming? Ok, same model of Hawk? (Ready to be corrected). Makes sense. Therefore absolutely not.....

Topcliffe?
Thorney?
Little Riss ?

Suggestions on a postcard to...............
Linton would be ideal; Halton even better, or pinch Abingdon back from the brown jobs; that would make Brize happy.
Altenatively they're resurfacing Northolt for practically no other military traffic...
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Oooh, didn't think of Halton.
Delay hand-back of some prime estate?

Stop them having to build in flat Lincs......
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Originally Posted by Wrathmonk View Post
If Wittering is the chosen home I hope the lawyers are ready for the chap who lives in the big house on the extended centreline. He didn't like the Harriers so don't think he's going to be too happy with the Reds practising several times a day (plus the coloured smoke). Also, wonder how many crashes on the A1 they will cause...? Unless, of course, they are going to continue to rehearse at Scampton.
If you mean the big house just to the south of Barnack, he also dislikes Google streetview because the entire frontage of his property is all blurred out.
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Hmm...

I bet any member of the wider Reds organisation who has bought a house near Scampton is praying for Waddington.

Knowing how the needs of people are always considered a priority Iím sure the powers that be will make the right decision.

Can you sense the sarcasm?

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bought a house near Scampton
Valley or Culdrose it is then!
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Originally Posted by Wrathmonk View Post
Also, wonder how many crashes on the A1 they will cause...?.
same at Leeming.



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Originally Posted by Wrathmonk View Post
If Wittering is the chosen home I hope the lawyers are ready for the chap who lives in the big house on the extended centreline. He didn't like the Harriers so don't think he's going to be too happy with the Reds practising several times a day (plus the coloured smoke). Also, wonder how many crashes on the A1 they will cause...? Unless, of course, they are going to continue to rehearse at Scampton.
Question is when did he buy said house. Airfields aren’t easy to hide, so if he bought it whilst the airfield was active he’s on a sticky wicket and needs to complain about the standard of survey done by the conveyancer. I was constantly fending off daft complaints whilst holding at Coningsby many moons ago. They quickly shut up when I asked how long have you owned your home, because we’ve been here since 1940. Low flying complaints were always amusing ‘no Madam, I can assure you it wasn’t gratuitous behaviour just to disrupt your party, he was in fact landing at the time you spotted him’.

As for how many crashes on the A1, you could ask the similar question about Leeming or Waddington and the A15. Personally I’d quite like them in Wittering. Between the Reds and BBMF using my house as a waypoint in the past, I could have most of the display season sewn up. But as it stands, and purely because it’s a wholly illogical move, they will no doubt end up at Waddington.


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Originally Posted by Wrathmonk View Post
Also, wonder how many crashes on the A1 they will cause...?
Not vastly different to having 2 Sqns of Harriers there really.
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ISTR that the Air Experience Flight at Wittering couldn't operate at weekends because the Air Traffic Control contract only covered Monday to Friday. Moving the Reds there should solve the ATC issue, but the AEF might not mix well with the Reds...
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Sadly for Wittering the precedent is already set!

£1m payout over country house idyll ruined by the scream of Harrier jets

No one should have to endure this, rules judge making order against RAF
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/.../jeevanvasagar
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Sadly the boat was missed in 1957 when RAF Halton was due to start its concrete runways - the Sandy’s Report that same year cancelled it. This is what may have been:




Finally, on Halton a very small handful of locals proper kicked off about the arrival of 2 piston powered glider tugs to operate from the airfield. Which always made me chuckle as 10 years earlier the RAF Engineering Apprentices were conducting engine ground runs on 3x Vulcan bombers flown in for their use - yes, landed they on the grass as well as a Comet airliner!

The last hard military runway to be built in the UK was at RAFC Cranwell that was finished by 1959 for the arrival of the Vampire, Jet Provost and Meteor. Prior to that it was grass which made it a strange choice to operate our first prototype jet the Golster E28/39 during World War 2 from a grass airstrip.
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Surely Leeming would make most sense in terms of centralising T1s?
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 20:36
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Wittering and practices over Scampton or Cottesmore?

Waddington has too many ISTAR assets for them to want a load of Reds fans around watching?

Leeming would make sense to consolidate all of the T1 assets and engineering? (Just seen your post Tashengurt. Apologies)

Just some thoughts.
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As I recall from local airspace user groups a while ago, the airspace above Scampton is a prized asset. I would imagine Durham Tees Valley would not be happy about the establishment of a D313 type area up to 9500’ on their doorstep - Doncaster were already trying to grab a piece of 313 but it has grandfather rights! Wittering would appear to intrude on the Sibson PJE reservation so wouldn’t work, and the Reds complained about the transit time from Cranwell to 313 back in the day....
The (last) plan for Waddington involved a separate enclave on the ‘Vulcan’ side of the airfield, the catch being the need for a separate entrance from the A15 which was going to cost a lot. However, I think the airspace issues might mean that Waddington gets them.....
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I guess it will be Scampton then. Just like the last 47 iterations of RAFAT rebasing.
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Brawdy anyone?
Brown jobs moving out... tick
Lots of space.... tick
Sheep as neighbours... tick
Hawks already been there... tick

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How about Kemble????? Couple of hangars at the far side would be about the right size. big parking area - still has the die stains on it

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