Indian Air Strikes in Pakistan
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AFAIAA, the F-16 is the only aircraft on either side which carries the AIM-120C.
Early reports said the engagements were were made by F-16s on AD CAP using AIM-120 whilst JF-17s forced the strike package. Those reports were hastily withdrawn when it was pointed out the terms of the F-16 sale did not allow their offensive use.
India Shows Proof U.S. Made F-16s And AIM-120 Missiles Were Used By Pakistan In Aerial Brawl - The Drive
Early reports said the engagements were were made by F-16s on AD CAP using AIM-120 whilst JF-17s forced the strike package. Those reports were hastily withdrawn when it was pointed out the terms of the F-16 sale did not allow their offensive use.
India Shows Proof U.S. Made F-16s And AIM-120 Missiles Were Used By Pakistan In Aerial Brawl - The Drive
Surely a CAP over Pakistani territory (incl the bit of Kashmir they administer) would constitute defensive use?
Also, to my untrained eye, the debris of the AMRAAM pictured doesn't look like something from a weapon which detonated, more something recovered from a crash site (lending weight to India's claim of an F16 kill?)
Also, to my untrained eye, the debris of the AMRAAM pictured doesn't look like something from a weapon which detonated, more something recovered from a crash site (lending weight to India's claim of an F16 kill?)
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Probably totally spurious, both sides have a reputation for duplicity.
TASS: World - Eight Indian fighters took on 24 Pakistani jets in unprecedented dogfight ? media
TASS: World - Eight Indian fighters took on 24 Pakistani jets in unprecedented dogfight ? media
Yup, the truth hasn't even got of bed...
No footage of wreckage of either the claimed F16 or Su30, suggesting it was a) propaganda or b) they conveniently came down on home turf (even then, there's always someone with a phone...)
No footage of wreckage of either the claimed F16 or Su30, suggesting it was a) propaganda or b) they conveniently came down on home turf (even then, there's always someone with a phone...)
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Continuing the rumour-fest ...... According to Zee News of India - https://zeenews.india.com/india/crys...s-2183715.html
- the initial strike by IAF Mirage 2000s used Crystal Maze missiles and Spice 2000 guided bombs. Both apparently have significant standoff capability.
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Continuing the rumour-fest ...... According to Zee News of India - https://zeenews.india.com/india/crys...s-2183715.html
- the initial strike by IAF Mirage 2000s used Crystal Maze missiles and Spice 2000 guided bombs. Both apparently have significant standoff capability.
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Surely a CAP over Pakistani territory (incl the bit of Kashmir they administer) would constitute defensive use?
Also, to my untrained eye, the debris of the AMRAAM pictured doesn't look like something from a weapon which detonated, more something recovered from a crash site (lending weight to India's claim of an F16 kill?)
Also, to my untrained eye, the debris of the AMRAAM pictured doesn't look like something from a weapon which detonated, more something recovered from a crash site (lending weight to India's claim of an F16 kill?)
He is quite correct. Those claims that the wreckage was from an F-16 are just ridiculous!
You can see the same internal construction in the following video showing the wreckage of a Yugoslav MiG-21bis.
The claims also extend to the MiG-21 wreckage as being from an F-16. It is clearly the tail section of a MiG-21. They are trying to claim that the circled part shows the serial of a Pakistani F-16. No F-16 is constructed like that!
In fact there is a serial visible on that wreckage and it is on the inside of the inspection panel. You can just make out CU-2XXX. (Other figures obscured). The MiG-21 That was shot down was serial CU-2328. I've ringed it in yellow and turned the image 180.
See following video showing the wreckage of the Indian MiG-21. See at 1:14 and 1:55 for the wreckage that is being ludicrously claimed as a Pakistani F-16.
You can see the same internal construction in the following video showing the wreckage of a Yugoslav MiG-21bis.
The claims also extend to the MiG-21 wreckage as being from an F-16. It is clearly the tail section of a MiG-21. They are trying to claim that the circled part shows the serial of a Pakistani F-16. No F-16 is constructed like that!
In fact there is a serial visible on that wreckage and it is on the inside of the inspection panel. You can just make out CU-2XXX. (Other figures obscured). The MiG-21 That was shot down was serial CU-2328. I've ringed it in yellow and turned the image 180.
See following video showing the wreckage of the Indian MiG-21. See at 1:14 and 1:55 for the wreckage that is being ludicrously claimed as a Pakistani F-16.
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The initial first day report by the indian media is where the su30 claim is coming from. They from went claiming 1 mig21 and 1 su30 being shot down to just 1 mig21 **** down.
See from 4:34 in the following video and see the fin less fuel tank with the nipple on the end. You can also see it briefly at the beginning.
See it being loaded onto the truck in the following video at 1:22
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Alert 5 » Operation Balakot was a failure - Military Aviation News
Operation Balakot was a failure
A post strike analysis by Michael J. Sheldon for the Digital Forensic Lab suggests India’s air strike inside Pakistan was a failure.
Using commercial satellite imagery, Sheldon was able to confirm that the strike had taken place near Jaba Top. Images taken on Feb. 27 showed only impacts in the woods and none of the surrounding structures seem to be damage.
https://medium.com/dfrlab/surgical-s...n-7f6cda834b24
Operation Balakot was a failure
A post strike analysis by Michael J. Sheldon for the Digital Forensic Lab suggests India’s air strike inside Pakistan was a failure.
Using commercial satellite imagery, Sheldon was able to confirm that the strike had taken place near Jaba Top. Images taken on Feb. 27 showed only impacts in the woods and none of the surrounding structures seem to be damage.
https://medium.com/dfrlab/surgical-s...n-7f6cda834b24
AFAIAA, the F-16 is the only aircraft on either side which carries the AIM-120C.
Early reports said the engagements were were made by F-16s on AD CAP using AIM-120 whilst JF-17s forced the strike package. Those reports were hastily withdrawn when it was pointed out the terms of the F-16 sale did not allow their offensive use.
India Shows Proof U.S. Made F-16s And AIM-120 Missiles Were Used By Pakistan In Aerial Brawl - The Drive
Early reports said the engagements were were made by F-16s on AD CAP using AIM-120 whilst JF-17s forced the strike package. Those reports were hastily withdrawn when it was pointed out the terms of the F-16 sale did not allow their offensive use.
India Shows Proof U.S. Made F-16s And AIM-120 Missiles Were Used By Pakistan In Aerial Brawl - The Drive
The Air Force in Taipei said Friday afternoon that after checking the information, it had concluded that the identification numbers shown did not match any of its missiles, and were not compatible with any weapons systems in its possession, the Central News Agency reported.
It seems that at least one Pakistani aircraft was shot down, as it is now being reported that Pakistani locals beat the pilot to death thinking he was an Indian. This may account for the original Pakistani report that they had captured 2 Indian pilots and not one.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=usb2a_1551531205
The most believable version of events is that the Bison went after an F-16 of unknown mark and downed it with an R-73 but was then in turn shot down by an AIM-120C5 launched by a second F-16. Although I must admit that AMRAAM fragment doesn’t look like it came from a missile that actually detonated.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=usb2a_1551531205
The most believable version of events is that the Bison went after an F-16 of unknown mark and downed it with an R-73 but was then in turn shot down by an AIM-120C5 launched by a second F-16. Although I must admit that AMRAAM fragment doesn’t look like it came from a missile that actually detonated.
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It seems that at least one Pakistani aircraft was shot down, as it is now being reported that Pakistani locals beat the pilot to death thinking he was an Indian. This may account for the original Pakistani report that they had captured 2 Indian pilots and not one.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=usb2a_1551531205
The most believable version of events is that the Bison went after an F-16 of unknown mark and downed it with an R-73 but was then in turn shot down by an AIM-120C5 launched by a second F-16. Although I must admit that AMRAAM fragment doesn’t look like it came from a missile that actually detonated.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=usb2a_1551531205
The most believable version of events is that the Bison went after an F-16 of unknown mark and downed it with an R-73 but was then in turn shot down by an AIM-120C5 launched by a second F-16. Although I must admit that AMRAAM fragment doesn’t look like it came from a missile that actually detonated.
Besides if PAF did lose an F16, the Americans would be all over pakistan right now. It is interesting how even the rank and name of the supposed pilot is known yet PAF can someone deny it and the family is silent...
time will tell I guess