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Civilian Typhoon QFI anyone?

Old 11th Feb 2019, 17:36
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Unhappy Civilian Typhoon QFI anyone?

Just see that a certain Coningsby Sqn are advertising for civilian QFIs.

Surely we haven't reduced so far that we don't now hold sufficient SQEP to train our own people, esp those at the front end!!?
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 18:14
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...not seen it but it could be the Sim?
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 18:19
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On the face of it this is just the next straw to go....

Civilian Qualified Instructors are fairly endemic across the fleets now.

I guess someone somewhere deems it more economical to fund the individual with all through life employments costs, plus a healthy profit to the organisation he/she works for; rather than just properly man the services such that they are self sustaining.

It is a gradual further erosion of SQEP within the services as once civilianised the blue throughput constricts to suit ergo further lack of people in uniform and further reduction of SQEP; and just another civilian position with attractive renumeration and TOS that will further erode retention.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 18:58
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Or it could be allowing current Typhoon QFIs who have had enough of the front-line grind to leave the RAF and be employed by BAE to help plug the gaps on 29 Sqn. If they are leaving anyway, why not retain their experience in this way?

Perhaps the outrage bus left the station a little early this time?
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 20:37
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Deliverance, how does employing the civilian help with respite tours for his successors in uniform? Surely this will erode future retention due to front line fatigue that you allude to; when the post is no longer available for respite tours how do you retain the next person to need respite....?
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 20:52
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I think the point is that gap between pilots required and pilots in service is growing and this is trying to retain SQEP where possible. I’m sure there will be plenty of places left open for “respite” tours. 3 “civvies” is not an entire OCU.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 01:02
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One can only applaud this sensible (if highly regrettable) fix to the immediate issue of Typhoon force manning. Just wait until Kuwait and Qatar's Typhoon forces stand up. There are already a really significant number of ex-RAF pilots working for BAE in-Kingdom, the two new operators (especially Qatar) will need many more. I hope that someone brighter than me has put something in place to ensue that the expanding Typhoon force can be fully manned even in the face of what promises to be a bit of an outflow of blokes.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 01:14
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Simple.....generate an inflow of Bloke-esses!
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 09:04
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Simple.....generate an inflow of Bloke-esses!
Except the initial training system has already demonstrated significant delays, to the point where there's going to be a drastic reduction in the number of pilots being recruited...
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 22:20
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It always amazes me how the RAF consistently manages to mismanage manpower requirements - they’ve been buggering it up for a while now....
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 12:11
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Although it won’t affect training delays, perhaps the RAF might carry out a junior ranks ‘future pilot’ grading course, similar to the AAC? That way you might identify potential pilots that are already in the mob?
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 12:36
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For the last 55 years at least, it was happening when I was in the system
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 14:20
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Originally Posted by Stitchbitch View Post
Although it won’t affect training delays, perhaps the RAF might carry out a junior ranks ‘future pilot’ grading course, similar to the AAC? That way you might identify potential pilots that are already in the mob?
Recruitment I don't believe is the issue. It's pushing them through the flying training system once you've got them. 2 year holds just to start EFT after iot, let alone between courses. In house recruitment won't change that at all (and it does already happen).
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Aged 61 and 3/4 own teeth, 2 QFI tours on Hawk have flown the Lightning (old one) also did a bit of trimming on the GR1, willing to consider position for the right money....

Oh and Tutor qualified for what it is worth with RAF Reserve kinda commission thingy..
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…...[color=left=#000000]have flown the Lightning (old one)[/color]
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 19:31
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Originally Posted by Bigpants View Post
Aged 61 and 3/4 own teeth, 2 QFI tours on Hawk have flown the Lightning (old one) also did a bit of trimming on the GR1, willing to consider position for the right money....

Oh and Tutor qualified for what it is worth with RAF Reserve kinda commission thingy..


BigPants, you and all yer old mates could save the day!
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 05:45
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Originally Posted by muppetofthenorth View Post
Except the initial training system has already demonstrated significant delays, to the point where there's going to be a drastic reduction in the number of pilots being recruited...

Great, that is the last thing I wanted to know.
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