How much of being a fighter pilot do you believe is genetic?
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Originally Posted by F-16GUY
quantify,
The following link is to a thesis by norwegian testpilot "Timber" He was the first norwegian F-35 pilot and F-35 squadron commander. He made a thesis about the shift of skills required in the F-35 cockpit compared to 4th generation jets. Unfortunately most of the text is in norwegian, but the summery is in english. Maybe you can translate the text with google. To sum it up, future F-35 pilots will need better skills in areas like processing wast amount of information and skills like psychomotoric will not be as important as in existing platforms, as the plane is much easier to fly then earlier generations.
https://brage.bibsys.no/xmlui/bitstr...=5&isAllowed=y
Even though it is in norwegian, you might be able to get some useful information by looking at his bibliography. I hope it points you in the right direction.
I hope it will answer some of your questions.
Last but not least, and will all the replies you have got until now from people who didn't tell you they are fighterpilots, this joke comes to mind:
Never ask a man if he is a fighter pilot. If he is, he'll let you know. If he isn't, don't embarrass him.....
The following link is to a thesis by norwegian testpilot "Timber" He was the first norwegian F-35 pilot and F-35 squadron commander. He made a thesis about the shift of skills required in the F-35 cockpit compared to 4th generation jets. Unfortunately most of the text is in norwegian, but the summery is in english. Maybe you can translate the text with google. To sum it up, future F-35 pilots will need better skills in areas like processing wast amount of information and skills like psychomotoric will not be as important as in existing platforms, as the plane is much easier to fly then earlier generations.
https://brage.bibsys.no/xmlui/bitstr...=5&isAllowed=y
Even though it is in norwegian, you might be able to get some useful information by looking at his bibliography. I hope it points you in the right direction.
I hope it will answer some of your questions.
Last but not least, and will all the replies you have got until now from people who didn't tell you they are fighterpilots, this joke comes to mind:
Never ask a man if he is a fighter pilot. If he is, he'll let you know. If he isn't, don't embarrass him.....
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Originally Posted by quantify
Thanks very much, this is quite interesting, how can one practice the skill of processing vasts amounts of information at once? Does that come to your ability to multi task and maintain elite cognitive control where you are able to allow useful information and ignore useless information on a dime?
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Originally Posted by Brian 48nav
My ex-fighter pilot son is first born, 6'4" and reckoned he was the 'G King' when he was on Jaguars ( 1990-99 ) - big ego and I believe well-hung - I stopped checking when he overtook me at about 12 months old!
Don't know about genetics - when I had a go at a PPL just before taking my 8yr option I was absolutely useless. Perhaps my dearly beloved passed on the FP genes?
He's certainly " God's gift to women " - or so he keeps telling us!
Don't know about genetics - when I had a go at a PPL just before taking my 8yr option I was absolutely useless. Perhaps my dearly beloved passed on the FP genes?
He's certainly " God's gift to women " - or so he keeps telling us!
The Jaguar is a fighter?
I thought the only air combat the Jaguar has seen was when one was shot down by a Phantom!
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The Jaguar is a fighter?
I thought the only air combat the Jaguar has seen was when one was shot down by a Phantom!
I thought the only air combat the Jaguar has seen was when one was shot down by a Phantom!
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I’m pretty sure that a Jaguar hoofed off an AIM-9 at a surface target in GW1...not that this should be taken as a demonstration that the frustrated mud driver wanted to be a fighter pilot.
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You really don't mean anthropomorphic do you?
Originally Posted by quantify
Isn't being able to learn quickly an innate skill as well?
And sometimes, one discovers mid to late in training that they've hit the ceiling, or have hit a plateau.
If the Air Forces and Navies of the world had a better way to drop in the old dip stick and figure out whose aptitude matched the needed traits best, they'd be using it. There is a lot of screening that goes on, but the final test is on task as the demands increase.
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I was!!!!!!
Philip couldn't fly a helicopter even if it had training wheels!
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Is anybody aware of any good research on correlation factors that may affect early aptitude assessment?
Further research by the University of Stockholm in 2002 reported that "...rather than capturing psychodynamic defence mechanisms, our results suggest that the DMT taps perceptual or information-processing difficulties in correct identification of brief stimulus exposures regardless of their emotional contents".
I don't know whether any subsequent work along these lines has been done. From a Jungian perspective, presumably military pilots as a breed are selected as stable extraverts.
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Originally Posted by LONEWOLF 50
And sometimes, one discovers mid to late in training that they've hit the ceiling, or have hit a plateau.
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Bit harsh, BomberH?
A proper fighter pilot would have smacked him in the nose and continued drinking the 10th of his 18 pints of that happy hour.
Mind you, you were Crab Air, so I suppose allowances have to be made
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
If the Air Forces and Navies of the world had a better way to drop in the old dip stick and figure out whose aptitude matched the needed traits best, they'd be using it.
And I believe post-analysis showed many of the former to, in many cases, having been rated as average or below prior to combat having commenced.
E.g.
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A passing thought, anyone studied whether the proportion of left handedness is higher than normal amongst fighter pilots. In the 80s when I was at Neatishead I discussed the preponderance of left handedness amongst fighter controllers with Aunty Joan. Nothing scientific you understand, just seemed to be quite a lot of them.
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The ‘handedness’ debate is interesting. Before my first hop at Valley my primary asked if I was left handed, as he was - and anecdotally so were a high proportion of his force (Harrier) at the time.
I’ve never bothered finding out if the anecdotal evidence was in anyway accurate.
As a right hander I think I worried about it for a good second or two.
I’ve never bothered finding out if the anecdotal evidence was in anyway accurate.
As a right hander I think I worried about it for a good second or two.
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Originally Posted by orca
The ‘handedness’ debate is interesting. Before my first hop at Valley my primary asked if I was left handed, as he was - and anecdotally so were a high proportion of his force (Harrier) at the time.
I’ve never bothered finding out if the anecdotal evidence was in anyway accurate.
As a right hander I think I worried about it for a good second or two.
I’ve never bothered finding out if the anecdotal evidence was in anyway accurate.
As a right hander I think I worried about it for a good second or two.
