Clare Baldwin: Navy should help more as they are not doing much actual warfare
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Clare Baldwin: Navy should help more as they are not doing much actual warfare
From today on Jeremy Vine:
She said, referring to the illegal immigrant situation in the channel. Because, of course, our armed forces aren't committed to any security issues right now seeing as there is not much actual warfare occuring. These media people have got absolutely no idea.
The armed forces should get invovlved more regulalrly with helping us. Not just as a sign of crisis...when you've got a navy which is not involved in too much actual warfare at the moment then you need to use them in security issues
These media people have got absolutely no idea.
Too True!
Where did they get the idea the UK still has a Navy?
I'm sure that a few of those matelots with nothing to do, would really like to exchange their pitching and rolling, arctic cruise for the odd jolly out of Brighton to luvvy illegal immigrants trying to break down the door.
Or perhaps Ms Balding might like to take a lower deck cruise in one HM's old war canoes for a couple of months down the Gulf in July.
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Or perhaps Ms Balding might like to take a lower deck cruise in one HM's old war canoes for a couple of months down the Gulf in July.
IG
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Do you mean Clare Baldwin, special correspondent for Reuters and Pulitzer Prize winner, or do you mean Clare Balding, general broadcaster with a penchant for all things horses?
Out of interest, what "actual warfare" (your words) is the Royal Navy currently involved in?
Out of interest, what "actual warfare" (your words) is the Royal Navy currently involved in?
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Do you mean Clare Baldwin, special correspondent for Reuters and Pulitzer Prize winner, or do you mean Clare Balding, general broadcaster with a penchant for all things horses?
Out of interest, what "actual warfare" (your words) is the Royal Navy currently involved in?
Out of interest, what "actual warfare" (your words) is the Royal Navy currently involved in?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan...vy_deployments
This does not include other operations.
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Does the UK not have the equivalent of a Coast Guard? In the US, the Coast Guard has the law enforcement mission (including human smuggling/immigration) and USN is forbidden to get directly involved.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Does the UK not have the equivalent of a Coast Guard? In the US, the Coast Guard has the law enforcement mission (including human smuggling/immigration) and USN is forbidden to get directly involved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Ma...27s_Coastguard
https://assets.publishing.service.go.../mca_uksar.pdf
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As in a military service in the USA - no, see below. Helo SAR is covered by civil contract, currently Bristows.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Ma...27s_Coastguard
https://assets.publishing.service.go.../mca_uksar.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Ma...27s_Coastguard
https://assets.publishing.service.go.../mca_uksar.pdf
USCG does maritime law enforcement (fisheries laws, smuggling laws, maritime environmental protection laws, etc etc), operates and maintains waterways navaids (such as light houses, buoys, etc), and is responsible for maritime search and rescue. Apparently all those maritime law enforcement duties in the UK fall to the Royal Navy?
Clare Balding and Jeremy Vine talking Defence on the the radio?
Is that what used to be referred to as "Solid State Stereo" back in the day?
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Is that what used to be referred to as "Solid State Stereo" back in the day?
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The US Coast Guard is a military service, but not part of the Department of Defense. Coast Guard was originally part of the Department of Commerce, but recently was moved to Department of Homeland Security, which is a law enforcement agency. This is an important distinction under our Constitution. DoD assets may not be used for law enforcement duties. However, in times of war, the US Coast Guard can become part of the US Navy.
USCG does maritime law enforcement (fisheries laws, smuggling laws, maritime environmental protection laws, etc etc), operates and maintains waterways navaids (such as light houses, buoys, etc), and is responsible for maritime search and rescue. Apparently all those maritime law enforcement duties in the UK fall to the Royal Navy?
USCG does maritime law enforcement (fisheries laws, smuggling laws, maritime environmental protection laws, etc etc), operates and maintains waterways navaids (such as light houses, buoys, etc), and is responsible for maritime search and rescue. Apparently all those maritime law enforcement duties in the UK fall to the Royal Navy?
Don’t worry Clare I’m sure they can get the RNLI to do it
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
HM Coast Guard
They tend to be land based with Coast Guard stations and are responsible for the Maritime Search and Rescue, particularly with helicopters. The Royal National Lifeboat Institution has lifeboats and works with HMCG for rescue; they are not Government funded.
The nearer equivalent to the USCG is Border Force with a number of cutters two of which are in the Mediterranean.
The nearer equivalent to the USCG is Border Force with a number of cutters two of which are in the Mediterranean.
RN Fishery Protection Squadron: Provides fishery enforcement in English, Welsh, and NI water, and occasionally Scottish. Does national tasking such as shadowing Russian or Chinese warships of other vessels of interests. Can be used for Military Aid to Government Departments of Military Aid to The Civil Power - as can other RN ships. MAGD/MACP can include counter narcotics, counter terrorism, SAR, anti pollution, and so on.
Marine Scotland: Performs fishery protection in Scottish waters.
Border Force: Has five cutters used for anti illegal immigration and counter drug tasks. Two are returning to the UK from Med.
Police: Virtually every UK Police force has an area of coast, and have small patrol vessels, RIBs, and can patrol/board. The Ministry of Defence Police has full constabulary powers throughout the UK, and a large fleet of launches, mostly in the naval ports.
HM Coastguard: Coordinates Search and Rescue from shore stations, provides cliff/beach rescue teams and provides SAR helicopters via contract. Also provides marine salvage and towing via a contractor.
RNLI: Provides lifeboats through the UK and Ireland, manned by volunteers.
Trinity House: Responsible for light houses, light ships, and navigation bouys in English, Welsh, and NI waters.
Northern Lighthouse Board: Does the same in the Scottish and Isle of Man coasts.
Marine Scotland: Performs fishery protection in Scottish waters.
Border Force: Has five cutters used for anti illegal immigration and counter drug tasks. Two are returning to the UK from Med.
Police: Virtually every UK Police force has an area of coast, and have small patrol vessels, RIBs, and can patrol/board. The Ministry of Defence Police has full constabulary powers throughout the UK, and a large fleet of launches, mostly in the naval ports.
HM Coastguard: Coordinates Search and Rescue from shore stations, provides cliff/beach rescue teams and provides SAR helicopters via contract. Also provides marine salvage and towing via a contractor.
RNLI: Provides lifeboats through the UK and Ireland, manned by volunteers.
Trinity House: Responsible for light houses, light ships, and navigation bouys in English, Welsh, and NI waters.
Northern Lighthouse Board: Does the same in the Scottish and Isle of Man coasts.
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The US Coast Guard is a military service, but not part of the Department of Defense. Coast Guard was originally part of the Department of Commerce, but recently was moved to Department of Homeland Security, which is a law enforcement agency. This is an important distinction under our Constitution. DoD assets may not be used for law enforcement duties. However, in times of war, the US Coast Guard can become part of the US Navy.
USCG does maritime law enforcement (fisheries laws, smuggling laws, maritime environmental protection laws, etc etc), operates and maintains waterways navaids (such as light houses, buoys, etc), and is responsible for maritime search and rescue. Apparently all those maritime law enforcement duties in the UK fall to the Royal Navy?
USCG does maritime law enforcement (fisheries laws, smuggling laws, maritime environmental protection laws, etc etc), operates and maintains waterways navaids (such as light houses, buoys, etc), and is responsible for maritime search and rescue. Apparently all those maritime law enforcement duties in the UK fall to the Royal Navy?
