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Old 15th Jan 2019, 11:37
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I would sack her photographer, that photo makes her look like one of the muppets, she is probably charming, but that picture does her no justice. One of her main political interests is tackling climate change, that does not exactly sit well with having ones finger on the button.
Its not the only one. For quite a while on entering MOD Main Building, the gallery of senior officials and ministers had a slightly distorted, I think elongated, photo of Mark Lancaster which bore a close resemblance to President Assad.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 14:45
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What are we worried about. Denis Healey, erstwhile defence minister, was a member of the Communist party.....
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 15:00
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Originally Posted by 57mm
What are we worried about. Denis Healey, erstwhile defence minister, was a member of the Communist party.....
but not at the same time.

He also had something in common with JC, not Jim C, he would not have pressed the tit.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 20:58
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What are we worried about. Denis Healey, erstwhile defence minister, was a member of the Communist party.....
Beachmaster at Anzio.

Speaking at a House of Lords discussion on his career last year, former Labour MP and House of Commons speaker Betty Boothroyd remembered how "intellectual thug" Healey's wartime service left him with a unique position of authority as Defence Secretary.
She recalled how on one occasion he was being "talked down to" by an Admiral who'd never seen wartime service - at which point he warned:

"Look here - if you go on talking to me in those terms, I'll crawl under this table and I'll chew your balls off!"
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 21:31
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Surprising to hear Healy being eulogised in this forum. He initiated some of the biggest defence cuts in history-for ideological not financial reasons. Admittedly head and shoulders above current Labour candidate.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 22:17
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As long as she can stay awake she will have one over Fred Mulley.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 23:09
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As long as she can stay awake she will have one over Fred Mulley.

On the other hand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Mulley
"...Mulley attended Warwick School between 1929 and 1936. He served in the Worcestershire Regiment in the Second World War, reaching the rank of sergeant, but was captured in 1940 and spent five years as a prisoner of war in Germany..."
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 12:40
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Originally Posted by ShotOne
Surprising to hear Healy being eulogised in this forum. He initiated some of the biggest defence cuts in history-for ideological not financial reasons. Admittedly head and shoulders above current Labour candidate.

I think most of them were Treasury driven but some were political decisions - such as supporting the pull-out E of Suez. On the other hand he sold Buccaneers to the South Africans, gave the US the Chagos Islands and supported tactical & nuclear weapons

better than Duncan Sandys anyway
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 07:18
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Sandys is an easy target when his (in)famous review was in fact a response to the, then, shocking realisation that even spending our entire GDP on the latest and best aircraft couldn’t stop our cities being reduced to ash. In which event , under a Corbyn government he has already ruled out any possibility of retaliation
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 07:33
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Well nothing changed there then................ Sandys was right...
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 08:52
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Wasn't Mulley in charge when the UK ordered the Nimrod AEW rather than the Sentry? A "jobs for the boys" waste of £1Bn rather than proven technology.
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Old 19th Jan 2019, 21:37
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If Healy is guilty of being the worst Defence Secretary because he chopped the TSR2? History and reading the facts from Kew says differently.
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Old 19th Jan 2019, 22:15
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Well I forgot about Healey destrustion of the any plans for CVA01, etc that is likely to get the FAA crowd up in arms. I am of the opinion of Jerry Pook on things mind.
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