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Slingsby Type 31/ Cadet TX Mk.3

Old 13th Jan 2019, 16:49
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Dave.

Nice !

Note the wool tuff is straight back indicating co-ordinated flight. This is the mark of a proficient pilot as the tendency for inexperienced pilots is to unconsciously yaw away from lead.


The best way to maintain your line when flying formation in a glider is for the lead to set up a glide so that you need a little spoiler to maintain position. That way if you fall back you close the spoiler and if you are moving up you add more spoiler

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Old 13th Jan 2019, 17:00
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First solo, Mk3, July 1976, RAF West Malling, after 19 dual launches (19 x 3 minute circuits - 57 minutes to solo!!)
Still remember talking to myself out loud all the way round.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 17:18
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615 VGS still (I think) holds the world record for training launches (on the longest day of the year) - 615 launches using three MkIII and two T21b... Clive Watson organised the dawn to dusk event, a rota enabled staffing with rest periods etc. We built up to “the longest day” with a couple of practice days.i don’t recall any breakages... My contribution on “the longest day” to the total? 42 launches...
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 20:34
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Thanks Big Pistons - you've saved me having to explain to Chevron the subtleties of flying formation in a sailplane!
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What was the camera ship Dave?
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 20:43
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How about this one BP? Just a hint of brake so I can easily cope with both overtake and undertake.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 20:47
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The BGC's EuroFox Treaders - ably flown by a mate who used to instruct on Phantoms and Tornados. He always flies a nice smooth lead and I do my best to follow. Its not that easy, because if either of us cock it up the rejoin takes time, time I usually don't have (and - as you can imagine -particularly in the T.31!)
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Captain Beaky, if I were wearing a hat I'd take it off! Bravo Zulu.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 20:53
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Originally Posted by jimjim1 View Post
Thanks.

I guess I extrapolated from my personal experience without justification?

I was at Ouston for the A & B certificate and they operated only the T.21 for the few days (5?) I was there. Unfortunately we were not able to finish and I only did one solo. I then went elsewhere a few months later and did another entire A & B course on the T.31 Tandem Tutor.

The T.31 had a much inferior glide ratio and I seem to recall that circuits lasted barely three minutes as opposed to almost five for the T.21 Sedbergh. On an early T.31 landing the instructor was horrified when I gently extended the spoilers to (quite appropriately I thought) steepen the descent as I had been instructed on the T.21. There was no drama and as I recall, after I landed I was asked "Did I tell you to use the spoilers?". I was told not to use them again.
At Air Cadet Central Gliding School (ACCGS) RAF Syerston in the 70s we were taught to crack the spoilers open on the mark 3 on finals just in case, but it’s a big field with plenty of undershoot.
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Thanks Dave!

(30 seconds in a club owned T-21 when I was about 6 or 7 - cable break! Can't recall going up in it again but may have done...)

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621 Historic Flight preserving our heritage for the next generation. Now active again at Sandhill Farm although this photo was taken at Hullavington.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 21:29
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One from the other side with the "Royal Barge" taking prime position.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 21:47
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Dave, easier if the one with power formats on you....but the ex-FJ pilots don`t like following...!
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Great pics WE992 - fab fleet! Sycamore, take a good look at the pics above of both the 31 and the Lunak, and then explain how you think we could have got them if I was lead and the camera ship had side-by-side seating.
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How about this one BP? Just a hint of brake so I can easily cope with both overtake and undertake.
Nice to see a pro at work
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First solo Kingsfield Dhekelia 69.

The more observant of you will note this picture is not of a solo flight......


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T31 at RAF Swanton Morley c1974.
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 11:24
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First solo Kingsfield Dhekelia 69.

The more observant of you will note this picture is not of a solo flight......

No 'bomb' installed.! Although the CO at Halton (Jacko) sometimes flew a barge solo without one but then he was a BIG bloke.
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Brain Fade

Having lost all my docs in a house move can anyone recall the moves and swerves between 643 and 644. Hazy memory tells me I soloed 643 at Kirton ? with 644 based at Hemswell. Subsequent moves were to Spitalgate and Syerston but I can't recall who went where. Answers on a post card please I recall one mad day when someone decided to try 3 MK3's in formation.It went something like this. All four cables down, three gliders hooked on. All outs on outer cables with a 10 second lag, both climb as hard and high as they can. Third glider launches immediately falling cables hit ground. by now Nos 1 and 2 are downwind. No 3 aims Aims for 800-900ft tight turn downwind hopefully aiming to catch the two already in loose formation. I was only visiting. It never worked and no it wasn't my idea
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Kirton was briefly No 2 GC either before or after Spitalgate was (can't remember which was first) and before the two centres merged to form CGS at Syerston.
Before the merger No 1 GC had been at Swanton Morley since Jan 1962 after its former base at Hawkinge was closed, my brother having started one of the last courses to be held there but didn't solo there due weather so he finished at 613 Halton which was only 10 miles from our home.

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