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Gatwick Drone and the Regiment

Old 3rd Jan 2019, 21:25
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Gatwick Drone and the Regiment

I gather that the "army" protecting Gatwick were Regiment. [There's a surprise!]

I am astounded that MoD have announced withdrawal of same. Does PR trump OPSEC these days? I cannot for the life of me see a logical reason for publicising end of military protection.
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If you are concerned about OPSEC....by announcing the termination of an Operation....were you as concerned about the publication of the start and conduct of the same Operation?
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If you are concerned about OPSEC....by announcing the termination of an Operation....were you as concerned about the publication of the start and conduct of the same Operation?
No, because I assume that the motive for deployment and publicity was reassurance and deterrence. [Plus the urge to be seen to be "doing something"]
By announcing departure we have lost both.
[Incidentally the army appear to get maximum credit, and the Regiment will be criticised if matters go tits up again.]
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And how can you be sure that the report the soldiers are leaving is true and not a deliberate lie to lull the offenders into a false sense of security and see if they bring their toys out again?
The SAS have an on going role in aviation security, including hi jacks etc. they have had since the seventies to my knowledge.
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Over in the colonies, the last news that was even reported was the London mayor confirming that there might not have been any drones at all, right underneath the report that the only 2 people detained had been released without charges. Except for those directly involved, there seems to be a collective yawn in progress on this side of the pond.

I got lased twice on approach in the same city just a few days after the Gatwick UFO sightings, but I'm pretty sure nobody cares about that either
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
[Incidentally the army appear to get maximum credit, and the Regiment will be criticised if matters go tits up again.]
I was under the impression it was 14th Sigs that were deployed to Gatwick...?
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The airlines and the airports are having to dig deep to pay for new kit - which they should have had anyway

It's not the RAF Regiments job to provide 24/7 coverage for people who can pay - if it did occur it wasn't a terrorist or military act anyway
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I spent a happy few hours trying to get the Beeb report corrected, with reference to which bit of the military had been involved, and which kit had been deployed.

MoD did confirm to me that it was indeed the Rocks involved (not the Pongoes). I also understand that the Rafael 'Drone Dome' kit has not yet been delivered - so presumably it was Horizon, or somesuch.

If you check the latest version of the Beeb report (3 Jan), you'll see they have made the corrections.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46741687

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These little beauties are doing the rounds on FaceBook:



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Gatwick and Heathrow buying anti-drone equipment

Gatwick and Heathrow are to spend millions of pounds on anti-drone technology following the disruption at the Sussex airport before Christmas.

Gatwick and Heathrow have not disclosed the equipment they plan to use in future.

A Gatwick spokeswoman confirmed the airport had invested in new anti-drone defences after the disruption.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46754489
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Originally Posted by airsound
I spent a happy few hours trying to get the Beeb report corrected, with reference to which bit of the military had been involved, and which kit had been deployed.

MoD did confirm to me that it was indeed the Rocks involved (not the Pongoes). I also understand that the Rafael 'Drone Dome' kit has not yet been delivered - so presumably it was Horizon, or somesuch.

If you check the latest version of the Beeb report (3 Jan), you'll see they have made the corrections.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46741687

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Great work AS!

It is amazing the complete horsesh1t that comes from HM Gov, MoD, Police etc... Are all "official" agencies completely immune to some accountability?

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Old 4th Jan 2019, 22:00
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I fear so.
We have become a banana republic. Incompetence has become the acceptable norm. The pursuit of excellence is derided.
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Originally Posted by flensr
Over in the colonies, the last news that was even reported was the London mayor confirming that there might not have been any drones at all,
Not sure what it would have to do with the "London mayor" - Gatwick isn't in his area of responsibility because it's not in London (it's in West Sussex). The police force dealing with it isn't the one that reports to him either. So that just sounds like some hick colonial newshound spouting made-up news to me...

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Zing! Caught a big one

You see, it was the "UK Police" at London Gatwick. Because as far as US media is concerned, Gatwick is in London and the UK is so small there is only one "UK Police" organization.

https://www.businessinsider.com/poli...report-2018-12

Here's another slightly more informative actual riveting news report also dated 24 Dec. Can't seem to find anything about it after that. Not kidding this time.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/24/uk-p...-released.html
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Well it is the UK.....and sorry....but it is a small. place....really!

It is called LGW you know.....like London/Gatwick.

I night stopped there whenever possible so as to hit the "Curry Inn" in Horley followed by a longish visit to the Six Bells Pub.

Don't blame the American Media.....Journalism school is for those who cannot qualify for any other degree.
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I spent 2 years living in Cambridge, loved it. Learned enough to "miss" the UK from just a decade or two ago. Maybe I'm just dreaming but I'm hoping Brexit will help the UK recapture their own unique spirit. I'm probably wrong but it was the history and heritage of the UK that I most loved and missed after I left.
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For me a Google News search for Sadiq Khan and drones turns up... Nothing. Can you provide a link?
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I spent 2 years living in Cambridge, loved it. Learned enough to "miss" the UK from just a decade or two ago. Maybe I'm just dreaming but I'm hoping Brexit will help the UK recapture their own unique spirit. I'm probably wrong but it was the history and heritage of the UK that I most loved and missed after I left.
nice try, wrong thread (twice).

​​​​​​Start an new thread, perhaps in nostalgia 'I loved Cambridge, history and heritage '
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I got lased twice on approach in the same city just a few days after the Gatwick UFO sightings, but I'm pretty sure nobody cares about that either
Au contraire, there is an active UK Laser Working Group sponsored by DfT, which is how the law got changed last year. It is now illegal to use a laser against any form of transport, or ATC facilities, and it is now punishable by up to 5 years jail or an unlimited fine. So people do care...

I hope you reported the attacks as required by EC 376/2014, MOR etc? I’m told the Laser WG had to convince the Govt the problem was under-reported before anything got moving.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
[Incidentally the army appear to get maximum credit, and the Regiment will be criticised if matters go tits up again.]

I was under the impression it was 14th Sigs that were deployed to Gatwick...?
I was under the impression it was TCW.

Don't blame the American Media.....Journalism school is for those who cannot qualify for any other degree.
Speaking as a journalist SASless, it is true when they say; "Those that can, do. Those that can't, write about it."
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