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Air System Nonsense

Old 15th Dec 2018, 08:25
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Air System Nonsense

I see that the MAA have recently redrafted the Military Rules of the Air using the nonsensical term “Air System” throughout rather than the far more sensible “Aircraft”.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...07_Issue_8.pdf

Looking at their own definition of “Air System’ in MAA 02 it hardly fits either:

Fixed or rotary wing Aircraft, piloted or remotely piloted, and the ground-based systems vital to their safe operation.
So their Rules of the Air now uses the term Air System and states that an “Air System should not be flown in such proximity to other Air Systems as to create a danger of collision”. How the hell does that fit if the ground-based systems are included?

What is wrong with the people in the MAA? Why do they have to make their documents so ridiculously complicated by using inappropriate words like “Air System” instead of the widely used “Aircraft”? If anyone from the MAA reads this can you please have a serious think about the readability of your document set. Here is a starter for ten from the Oxford Dictionary:

AIRCRAFT - An aeroplane, helicopter, or other machine capable of flight.

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Old 15th Dec 2018, 08:40
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Added to that, look at the cost to RAF Bases and civilian contractors under MRP-145 who now have to trawl through all their local documents/procedures/contracts and then amend them appropriately, that is not cheap in time and costs associated with that task.
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I guess it's to ensure that safety standards, in my mind including technically and particularly maintainance that apply to the aircraft, also apply to the likes of ground control centres and launch/recovery systems.

Can't see an issue with it myself. Aviation is inherently technical. If it's too complicated, go drive a bus!
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 09:46
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They did it a few years ago. BM Orders (driven by the MAA changes) have referred to 'Air Systems' rather than 'Aircraft' for at least a year now, if not longer.
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 09:59
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When I read the thread title, I thought that the poster was referring to Aircraft Air Systems, as opposed to Fuel, Hydraulic, Electrical system etc :-)
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Do the Royal Navy operate "Water Systems" or "Aquatic Systems"?
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 16:20
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Added to that, look at the cost to RAF Bases and civilian contractors under MRP-145 who now have to trawl through all their local documents/procedures/contracts and then amend them appropriately, that is not cheap in time and costs associated with that task.
In the civvy world - you just add a declaration changing terms and definitions, you don't waste effort by chasing boll...politics at the top of the chain.
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Comedy isn't what it used to be. In the 60's heliopters became hicopleters...
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 14:14
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Originally Posted by VinRouge View Post
I guess it's to ensure that safety standards, in my mind including technically and particularly maintainance that apply to the aircraft, also apply to the likes of ground control centres and launch/recovery systems.

Can't see an issue with it myself. Aviation is inherently technical. If it's too complicated, go drive a bus!
So does this mean that “ground Control Centres should not be flown in such proximity to other Ground Control Centres as to create a danger of collision”. I do believe that sometimes people make things sound more "Technical" than need be. In this case I think I detect the scent of "Male Bovine Faces"
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 15:02
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Does MoD still have that department near Swindon that provides definitions/translations of words and phrases used by MoD that don't appear in any dictionary? I'd never heard of them until just before retiring, when I overheard one of my young graduates talking to them on the phone. He'd a degree in English Lit and done the Shrivenham Defence Admin degree course (bloody waste of time that one), but couldn't make head nor tail of a URD he'd received from London.
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 15:34
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I do believe that sometimes people make things sound more "Technical" than need be.
Is that not a basic inherited trait of the British?
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 19:14
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And our American friends are no slouches in that department either. How about Air Movement Device for 'fan'? :-)
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What about "Dustman" - ' Council Domestic Waste Removal and Relocation Technician/Operative' '
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Also, when did a 'room' become a 'space'?
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 00:03
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This is most probably inspired by RPAS where the platform/vehicle is one part of a system spread far and wide.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 00:28
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What a load of Human future genetic material containment and production spheres..or bolloxs, why do these tossers or excess time expired genetic material disposal systems think it is smart to "redefine" words, does it give them a some sense of superiority or simply make up for deficiency in their petty lives?
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 00:32
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Also, when did a 'room' become a 'space'?
About the same time as one stopped selling a house and replaced it with property.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 00:51
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In the 60's heliopters became hicopleters...
Around here, they are Uptycopters.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 08:31
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I once travelled on a London bus displaying a notice describing the driver as the "personal transportation facilitator"...
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And don't forget that when Neil Armstrong walked on the moon he was wearing a nappy "fecal retention subsystem" under his space suit!
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