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Old 27th Nov 2018, 09:10
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Originally Posted by 4everAD
The Navy guys will soon be getting techie pay the RAF guys aren't that's very divisive!
Navy Rotary Crewmen are in Trade Supp 3 where as RAF Rotary Crewmen are in Trade Sup 2.

My understanding is that a Techie pay spine was imminent for the RAF too?
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Old 27th Nov 2018, 14:48
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Originally Posted by Door Slider


Navy Rotary Crewmen are in Trade Supp 3 where as RAF Rotary Crewmen are in Trade Sup 2.

My understanding is that a Techie pay spine was imminent for the RAF too?
Nothing confirmed yet as far as I'm aware, my point was more to do with the numerous differences between the services which could be considered divisive, a few extra days leave because you're in the RAF isn't going to cause a riot.
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Old 3rd Dec 2018, 20:32
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Originally Posted by Training Risky
Melch. That is appalling 'leadership' from the JFC towers! Is this decision down to that brown-job 4-star?
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Yes, it is indeed. Just saw the JFC Christmas leave policy today - 3 weeks all round to ensure you get a good break (less PJHQ who are on 2 weeks), but no extra leave is to be awarded as JFC personnel are already carrying leave over so don’t need any more. Plus it would be divisive apparently.

I assume Civil Servants in JFC will therefore not be getting privilege days this year? And juniors won’t be getting REN leave? After all, no need for it is there and it’s all one team. And you know I think the General has hit on a savings measure there too; unless you spend all your salary each year you don’t need your annual rise as promulgated by the AFPRB. All crazy suggestions, all following the same logic as the JFC decision.
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Old 4th Dec 2018, 07:58
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The JFC '3 Weeks all round' doesn't appear to have permeated to DefAc. 2 weeks, that's your lot (22nd to 6th).
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Old 4th Dec 2018, 10:33
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Good for them.....
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 10:52
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Must be nearly time? I’ll start the rumours; 3% with a 0.5% ‘bonus’...

Well, you can but hope...
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 12:59
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Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
Must be nearly time? I’ll start the rumours; 3% with a 0.5% ‘bonus’...

Well, you can but hope...
I think it will be 2%, if we are lucky.

Taking into account the economy, Brexit uncertainty etc etc I think I would be content with 2%
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 16:17
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Before last years 2%+0.9% weren't we told 6.5% over 3 years......?
But remember the starting point for this year is 2017+2%, so if we get 1.5%, we've already had 0.9 as a bonus, so that equates to 2017+2%+0.6%, so next years start isn't even up to 2018 as a starting point
More likely to be 2%, so 2018+1.1% (more than an austerity 1%, but only just!). They'll postpone the remaining 2.5% as long as possible, so 2020, but then try and claim the bonuses were already included!!!
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 19:23
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Not a bad guess LJ and interestingly, not a peep heard from the AFPRB so far this year? But the good Boris has promised a huge rise for the public sector, so let's hope it's wrapped up before October.
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 22:42
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Not a bad guess LJ and interestingly, not a peep heard from the AFPRB so far this year? But the good Boris has promised a huge rise for the public sector, so let's hope it's wrapped up before October.
I believe the AFPRB submitted their report to the government on 2 May.

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Old 4th Jul 2019, 04:41
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Originally Posted by Door Slider


I believe the AFPRB submitted their report to the government on 2 May.

We had the AFPRB here last week and the rest of the independent pay review bodies are still giving their reports to the government so our 'pay rise' can't be announced until they're all in and considered. Again it kind of makes a mockery of the system, how can one report be considered in isolation when the government is now insisting on having all the reports in before announcements are made?
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 12:32
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Originally Posted by 4everAD
We had the AFPRB here last week and the rest of the independent pay review bodies are still giving their reports to the government so our 'pay rise' can't be announced until they're all in and considered. Again it kind of makes a mockery of the system, how can one report be considered in isolation when the government is now insisting on having all the reports in before announcements are made?
If there is ever a bright side to this kind of thing, the NHS settlements announced last year cover up to March 2021, so at least the biggest of the public sector groups isn't holding everyone else up.
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Old 18th Jul 2019, 22:45
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According to the times - 2.9% pay rise.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...rces-rllv0lmtg

Police officers will receive a 2.5 per cent pay rise across the board, soldiers 2.9 per cent and teachers and other school staff 2.75 per cent. Dentists and consultants will get 2.5 per cent and senior civil servants 2 per cent.
I wonder if there is a ‘bonus’ to go on top?
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 04:01
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Public Sector Pay Rise

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...itics-49041295

For those that read the Daily Mail/Sun. (without the Times subscription). 😉
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 08:41
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From the Times article...

Penny Mordaunt, the defence secretary, has secured a 2.5 per cent rise for all members of the armed forces. The salary for the lowest-paid privates will go up from £19,025 to £20,000. She has made clear that pay increases for soldiers and other forces personnel are the “right priority” given their “vital importance” and “hard work and self-sacrifice” in protecting Britain.
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“It is the highest nominal pay increase since the coalition. But these increases are still slower than pay rises that are happening on average in the private sector. With the partial exception of schools, there seems to be no new money to fund these pay rises, meaning savings will have to be made elsewhere.”
If this is to be trusted then the 2.9% headline figure won’t be for everyone.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 07:37
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POLITICO:

There are a whopping 30 written ministerial statements on the order paper today, which is even more than the 27 last Thursday. Goodness knows how high the figure will get by the end of this week. A handful of today’s announcements cover the public sector pay rises leaked to the Times last week, but there are potentially interesting updates too on housing, local government, energy, teachers, prisons, the RAF, “electoral integrity,” support for families and more.

.......https://publications.parliament.uk/p...a/ob190722.htm
STATEMENTS TO BE MADE TODAY


Secretary of State for Defence

10.Armed Forces Pay Review Body Report 2019

11.Combat Air Strategy Update

12.Support for Armed Forces Personnel and Veterans

13.UN Mission Update


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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 10:14
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 17:36
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I was expecting far more comment on this.

Perhaps a a reflection of the board population...
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 18:18
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The figures in this years report for 2018 are 0.9% lower than was published & "recommended" last year, so we only actually get 2% above last year, the extra 0.9% - we've already had!!!!!
(See what I said above #29, at least better than my predicted 1.5%!!)
I'm leaving at the end of Aug, so at least now I get an additional small paypacket at the end of Sept , when I get my backdated pay!!!

So yet again we are below:
Police 2.5%
Teachers 2.75%
Medics 2.5%
(Unless they too have smoke & mirrors in effect)

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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 19:02
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Like many here, I only care about my Pension. But glad to see some recognition for the hard-working folks who are still flogging their butts off. I'll let others do the current number-crunching, having read the previous post!
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